The U.N. Is a Bad Idea ?

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COMMENTARY from WSJ.

The U.N. Is a Bad Idea

By GEORGE F. WILL
The Washington Post

WASHINGTON -- War precipitates clarity as well as confusion, and the war against Iraq already has clarified this: The United Nations is not a good idea badly implemented, it is a bad idea.

For France, and for the U.N. through which France magnifies its own significance, the objective of disarming Iraq, if ever seriously held, has been superseded by the objective of frustrating America. And for America, the imperative of disarming Iraq will soon be supplanted by the imperative of insulating U.S. sovereignty from U.N. hubris.

Certain political phrases become, through mindless repetition, cant that bewitches the intelligence. One such phrase is "the international community," which is oxymoronic because "community" denotes unity based on shared political interests and cultural values. And beware of political entities absurdly named. Just as the Holy Roman Empire was neither holy nor Roman nor an empire, the U.N. is a disunited collection of regimes, many of which do not represent the nations they govern.

The U.N. is premodern because it is unaccountable and irresponsible: It claims power not legitimized by the recurring consent of periodically consulted constituencies of the governed. Inebriated by self-approval, the U.N. is grounded in neither democratic consent nor territorial responsibilities, nor independent fiscal means, nor the material means of enforcing its judgments.

France wants to use the U.N. to acquire derivative dignity in a "multipolar" world with blocs of nations comparable to America in economic vigor, military power and political will. France evidently believes such blocs can be summoned into existence because their existence would be convenient.

France would be well-advised to avoid the subject of other potential powers. With India already the most populous democracy and soon to be the most populous nation, with its population growing more in a week than the entire European Union's grows in a year, why exactly is France (population 60 million) a permanent member of the Security Council? What of the largest Latin American nation (Brazil, 176 million), or the largest East Asian democracy (Japan, 127 million), or the largest Islamic nation (Indonesia, 231 million)?

Reverence for the U.N. translates into resistance to change. Liberals eager to be the definers of true conservatism say that once liberal institutions have been put in place it is unconservative not to conserve the institutions.

But it is reactionary, not conservative, to preserve the status quo of NATO 15 years after the end of the Cold War. Or of the U.N. Security Council, which is a snapshot of 1945 delusions and compromises. Both, liberals seem to believe, are of undiminished utility and authority. Actually, both call to mind Churchill's story of the man who received a telegram saying his mother-in-law had died and asking for instructions. The man wired back: "Embalm, cremate, bury at sea. Take no chances."

Liberals, who call conservative hostility to the U.N. "radical," disregard the recklessness, and the incoherence, of the U.N.'s new presumption. The U.N., a collection of regimes of less than uniform legitimacy, has anointed itself the sole arbiter of what are legitimate military actions. And it has claimed a duty to leash the only nation that has the power to enforce U.N. resolutions. How long will that nation's public be willing to pay one-quarter of the U.N.'s bills?

It is a measure of the intellectual vertigo into which the U.N. has plunged "the international community" that America, which is going to war to enforce Resolution 1441, is said to be doing so "in defiance of the U.N." The war will be followed by a presidential election in which all candidates must answer this: "Do you believe that any use of U.S. military power lacks legitimacy unless approved by France, Russia and China?" The Republican candidate has already answered.
 
Yup.

The *majority* of UN nations are thugocracies. The idea of taking marching orders from those clowns is an absurdity.

The left-wingers supporting the UN think you can add together conglomerations of pure dog diarrea and somehow get a good minestroni soup. Sorry boys. If the ingredients suck, the final result is gonna be baaaaad.
 
I don't know about "Thugocracy"... I tend to believe they are "Mofiaocracies" myself..

The UN :barf: the quickest way to lose sovereignty and move to serfdum...
 
George Soros, a billionaire mutual fund guru, is a well known supporter of all things one world. He is known to be a big supporter and advocate of the UN. Depending upon the particular conspiracy theory you believe, Soros is the daddy rabbit of the UN. Soros is a major advocate of NGO's (non-governmental organizations) which are involved in lots of bliss-ninny do-good studies. My favorite is the one calling for a ban on all small arms, worldwide.

Anyhow, something interesting is going on. Soros for decades has been content to lurk behind the scenes and letting his people be the public face of the UN. However, since the US has drawn a bead on Iraq and conclusively demonstrated the irrelevance of the UN, Soros has made himself available to a number of cable shows where he defends the UN conduct during the Iraq fiasco.

Sorta makes me wonder if he thinks the UN is in danger, at least his version of the UN.

Interesting, to me anyhow.
 
The original concept of the UN, like the earlier League of Nations, was an American concept, put forth by American leaders, based on American ideals of unity and representative cohesive strength to soundly bash bad guys out of existance. Kind of like 13 colonies forming one Union to deal with a King whose policies were detested.

Unlike the 13 colonies, who spoke the same language and held basically the same ideals, we now have a mish-mash polyglot of hive like thinkers and talkers with little or no resolve who never really believed the old saying, "Lead, Follow or GET OUT OF THE WAY".

It does however make a good forum to allow one to quickly identify friend and foe and keep them in one place should one need to corral such hive thinking for branding, castration or vaccination purposes.

Adios
 
Isn't the UN building a public safety hazard of some sort ? ? ? ?


or at least a public nuisance.....:evil:
 
Uncle Sam is kind enough to shell out BILLIONS each year to the UN -- our hard earned money (22-25% of the UN's budget). Nobody asked me!

How about using that money domestically?!
 
UN is the same gelded lilly as the League of Nations, just with an added coat of spit and polish and infinitely more pricey.

LON failed when Benito annexed Ethiopia and the sheeple bleated for Hailie Selassie when he asked for help.

UN has failed in Korea, in Kosovo, in Bosnia, in Eritrea/Somalia, in Cyprus, in Lebanon, in the Ino/Pak wars. The UN has had 17 resolutions and 12 years to enforce its edicts with Saddam. Wasted space.

The best thing we could do is to withdraw entirely from the UN, boot them out of NY, use that real estate for good domestic use, and expel all of the UN staffers and diplomats.

It is a high-priced debating society that has all the usefulness of g-strings on nuns.
 
Dennis Miller called it correctly (see entry # 2):

ARTICLE IN WICHITA FALLS PAPER BY DENNIS MILLER

"All the rhetoric on whether or not we should go to war against Iraq has Got my insane little brain spinning like a roulette wheel. I enjoy reading opinions from both sides but I have detected a hint of confusion from some of you.

As I was reading the paper recently, I was reminded of the best advice someone ever gave me. He told me about the KISS Method (Keep It Simple Stupid). So, with this as a theme, I'd like to apply this theory for those who don't quite get it. My hope is that we can simplify things a bit And recognize a few important facts.

Here are 10 things to consider when voicing an opinion on this important issue:

1) Out of President Bush and Saddam Hussein.....Hussein is the bad guy.

2) If you have faith in the United Nations to do the right thing, keep this in mind -- they have Libya heading the Committee on Human Rights and Iraq heading the Global Disarmament Committee. Do your own math here.

3) If you use Google Search and type in "French Military Victories," your reply will be "Did you mean French military defeats?"

4) If your only anti-war slogan is "No war for oil," sue your school district for allowing you to slip through the cracks and robbing you of the education you deserve.

5) Saddam and Bin Laden will not seek United Nations approval before they try to kill us.

6) Despite common belief, Martin Sheen is not the President --- he only plays one on TV.

7) Even if you are anti-war, you are still an 'infidel' and Bin Laden wants you dead too.

8) If you believe in a "vast right-wing conspiracy" but not in the danger that Hussein poses, quit hanging out with the Dell computer dude.

9) We are not trying to liberate them.

10) Whether you are for military action or against it, our young men and women overseas are fighting for us to defend our right to speak out -- We all need to support them without reservation.

Next time there's a war in Europe, the loser has to keep France"
 
Hah! Relax, Steel! I wasn't picking on you. Didn't you notice the little ;) thingy?

I was just plugging the other thread because there are other articles there which might interest anyone who would click on a thread with this title.
 
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