The Ugliest Shotgun in Maricopa County

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About a year or so ago, I was at a garage sale down in Queen Creek and I threw down forty dollars for a weird looking shotgun. Everything look clean and solid, and it had a familiar brand name. The gun was a Mossberg bolt action twelve gauge fed from a two round box magazine.

After bringing the ugly shotgun home, I did a little research and found out that Mossberg made quite a few of the bolt guns decades ago. There was a funky thingamajig at the end of the barrel which Mossberg called a C-Lect Choke, a twist-o-matic adjustable dealy with three settings: Full, Mod, and Imp Cyl.

I posted a thread here in the Shotgun forum asking about it, and our resident scattergun authority, Dave McCracken, sent me a link to his story, "The Ugliest Shotgun in Howard County". The story was about a similar Mossberg which he had modified into a dedicated slug gun for deer hunting.

Reading it made me feel better about my purchase. That weekend, I called my dad up and asked if he wanted to go bust some clays. He agreed, and I loaded up the ugly Mossberg and my beloved Winchester Model 12 and went over to his place.

He inspected the Mossberg, and after a few comments about how ugly it was, he said that he would usually buy pretty much any gun for that low of a price, sight unseen. We headed out to our usual spot, and after a bit of warm up with my Winchester, I gave the ugliest shotgun in Maricopa County a try.

I fiddled with the twist-o-matic choke and busted the first two clays with ease. The trigger wasn't bad, pretty smooth and light. Follow up shots were awkward with the bolt at first, since i was used to a pumpgun, but i got the hang of it after a spell. The only other beef was the box magazine was tricky to get in, but i figured it out before too long. Also, if i tried to chamber a round and top the mag off, it would hang up when i tried to work the action, and mangle the shell underneath. It's funny, because I've since seen old Mossberg ads advertising the gun as a "3 shot repeater".

I put the Mossberg away for a year, since i used my Model 12 for most everything. Dove season came around, and my beloved Model 12 was having some issues. It wasn't extracting reliably, only about a third of the time i worked the action. Not bad for a gun that was around 80 years old. I took the Model 12 to my gunsmith for some TLC. But what about the dove hunt we had scheduled two days later?

My dad has many shotguns, and i could have easily borrowed one, but i figured i would see how the ugly Mossberg faired. I might as well get my forty dollars worth, right?

We arrived at the spot right before dawn. The sky was turning from black to indigo blue, and the doves were moving. There were four of us: my father with his 870 Wingmaster in 20 gauge, his friend John with an Ithaca 12 gauge, and John's son Luke with a 20 gauge double. They laughed at my ugly shotgun and called it names. I shrugged it off and we all loaded up and headed out.

The first thing I noticed was how much lighter it was than my Model 12, which can be nice after walking a few miles. It also handled like a rifle, which I wasn't sure was good or bad yet.

After an hour, I had six birds in the bag when everyone else had two or three. I smiled every time I adjusted the choke to take a longer shot. I had those other two guys eating their words about my ugly shotgun. I think the ugliest shotgun in Maricopa county is going to get a good amount of use this fall for dove & quail season.

The moral of the story is, looks aren't everything. Even the ugly guns can still do an honest day's work.
 
queen creek is south of the phoenix area. it was a farming and ranching community for decades but is now one of the fast growing suburbs where californians buy houses for cheap when they move out here.
 
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I got ya,I know what you mean abought growning, I spent all my summers growning up in Cave Creek,When i go to AZ to visit the family i just abought get lost everytime,I did get lost in that new Cabelas in Glendale:)
 
The Ugliest Shotgun

I had one of these several years ago. I attempted to use it for deer my first season. I couldnt get it pattern. Then the black and blue shoulder told me to get rid of it.:eek: I hate to say it, but it is the only gun I ever sold for 25.00. Looking back I wish I would have kept it. It was a good looking bolt gun. Never did try it on birds.:banghead:
 
I have a 20 guage version with removable chokes. If you come around with a need to borrow one of my guns that is the one you most likely will be using.
 
A buddy of mine had an ooolllldddd bolt action 16ga the last range trip I took. I didnt get to shoot it though. He got there about forty five minutes before I drove up and he already shot all the shells he had for it.
 
Thanks for making my day. A couple things...

Getting off subsequent shots means working the bolt hardnfast. A little practice at home is warranted. "Palming" the ball instead of gripping it with the fingers adds some speed.

Still, these are better thought of as single shots with a convenient spare ammo carrier than repeaters like the venerated Model 12.

Every one of these I've tried has had a nice clean trigger. I'd bet lock time was similar to your 12 based on the results.

I hope you were magnaminous and didn't rub it in too hard.
 
Don't worry, Dave. I'm a good sport. I didn't rub it in really, I just walked around with a smug little grin on my face. Since this trip I have practiced working the bolt with the palm like you suggested, and it seems to be helping. I'm going out again this weekend, so we'll see how that goes. I know it will never be as fast as a pumpgun, but with some more practice hopefully i can get close.

As for pictures, I'll take one when i get home from work and post it.
 
Good on you, Lawson, I know you were tempted....

My old bud Billy in the story was able to get off fast repeat shots with his. He also took a 24 lb Gobbler that was and maybe still is the county record with his. He needed no followup shot.

And, one lesson repeated again. It's the pianist, not the piano, that makes the music.....
 
Hey, I'm with watson. Ya can't have a thread titled "The Ugliest Shotgun ..." and not have a picture!
 
Congrats on showing up your buddies with that clunker! I'd love to show up at the skeet range with one of those and play mind games with the "dudes" with a gun like that (I'm shure I could at least hold my own)! Have fun and if you ever need $40 call me!
 
Marlin Goose Gun.

Similar to gun in original post, 10 ga with a 34 or 36" barrel , I forget.

Buddy gets this thing, brand new. I never thought that l-o-n-g barrel was ever going to come out of that case.

Then he showed me the shells. :eek: We figured one pull the trigger on that sucker, and be scooted back into next county - backwards. His gun, he goes first, me behind to catch 'em. He didn't need catching. Umm, he was grinning and still had a shoulder too.

I shoot it, :) this thing is a pussycat.

Fast forward...

Fellow comes out with two old, well worn and Ugly bolt guns, ones been in his family. Marlins.
One old boy had had one in his family he used, he was right good at firing it, fast and shooting skeet with it.

I gravitated to that "big old uglier one, that will knock yer socks off".

I ain't got good sense, folks knew this, still I snag this thing and I'll be if the old boy that had it, had some light loads...yeah 10 ga, loaded up with # 7.5 shot.

They said I was cheating with that long barrel, I could probably hit High 1 coming out of the house, being 6' I got ribbed about shooting on knees...

" I am going to shoot this thing, so ya'll make fun of me if ya want".

10 ga is akin to 28 ga in the payload to bore "better than it should be" dept.

Does a right pretty job on clays. I worked bolt good enough [ hadn't forgotten old rifle lessons] and taking doubles.

Funny, me shooting a 10 ga, and he shooting a 12 - Ugly Gun shoot.

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Later on these two visited a Trap range, I was there. Talk about funny! These work great at trap.
One of range guys had a 10 ga set up to reload, did up a bunch of hard # 7.5, these are great at trap.

Everybody wanted to shoot a trap target with a 10 ga. 'Hey lookee there, I broke one from the 27 yd line, now if a 10 event were to get legal, I got a chance at this game". :D

Some of us ain't got good sense, have a lot of fun though.

Neat guns, ugly or not, if it works, it works. Besides it ain't ugly, called character, and the stories they tell are worth listening to.
 
alright guys, i'm home from work and i took some pics.

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is it a rifle, or a shotgun? i wasn't sure myself when i first saw it.

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bolt, trigger, and magazine assembly.

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twist-o-matic choke. sorry it's blurry, my camera is a piece of junk. it's marked full, mod, and imp cyl.
 
I just gave my dad back his 12ga JC Higgins bolt shotgun. 30" bbl, full choke.

He downed many a pheasant with it back in his youth.

I have never fired it, but it comes to the shoulder quick and points naturally.
 
Legionnaire ... different, but I wouldn't call it ugly!

The stock on mine, while it does have a schnable fore end, I think could pass for a scrap piece of floor joist that has been polished a bit, it has a couple knot holes that have been puttied over.
 
I had one in .410 for a little while. Couldn't hit a rabbit any of the times I tried -- probably me, but I know I could have hit them with my old sxs 20, so I sold it.
 
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