The Ultimate Beretta Hate Thread

[BerettaNut92]

Berettas suck.

Get out your 44 oz. Big Gulps of Haterade and tell us why. Here are my reasons:

The Beretta is big and unergonomical. For 9mms, they are size unefficient. Heck, they even bruised Chief Bratton of LAPD's hands. That's why they authorized Glocks, because they are so much smaller. And unlike a bar of soap, it has edges and corners on it, and you might snag it on something.

The Beretta is DA/SA. True tacticals don't do DA/SA. That's why the Navy SEALs went to Sig 226s. DA/SA in Beretta = bad, you have to learn TWO trigger pulls! DA/SA in Sig = tacticool, because the Navy SEALs use it.

The Beretta has no stopping power. 9mm ball sucks, that's why you shouldn't carry a 9mm loaded with quality jacketed hollowpoint ammunition.

The Beretta is heavy. A 44 ounce gun with 16 rounds of 9mm is inefficient. A 44 ounce gun with 9 rounds of .45 is efficient.

It wasn't John Moses Browning's idea. It even has an external extractor, and if you're down with JMB, he'd drop it like it's hot.

The Beretta has moving parts. This makes it unreliable. Heck, they even require oil to run. You can't run them dry, microwave them, then fire them while in a Slurpee machine.

The Beretta has an exposed barrel. If you dent it, it might kB!

The slide might come off and kill you.

The locking block might break. Unlike other mechanical devices which can be used until the rapture, you might have to replace your locking block every 30,000 rounds. This will be a logistical burden when the SHTF, because you might need to find another locking block, and zombies might intercept the UPS truck .

 

[Stickjockey]

Sarcasm or paradigm shift, Skunk?

 

[dleong]

Here's the reason I hate Beretta: everytime I type "Beretta," I cannot remember if it is spelled "Berreta," "Beretta" or "Berretta." This, of course, makes me lose sleep at night.

In case anyone is wondering, the only Berr... Berrett... BERETTA I own is a 22LR Neos with a 6" barrel. Love the little plinker!


DL

 

[EghtySx]

Did someone shoot your dog with a beretta or something?

 

[Zackmeister]

Too funny. No hate here, I might be picking up a 92 this summer.

 

[mtnbkr]

I don't hate Berettas, but mine didn't quite meet my needs.

The DA/SA trigger did cause problems for me since I shoot nothing but DA guns (mostly revolvers) otherwise. FWIW, I also sold my Star BM because of the SA trigger (an excellent trigger btw). I'm just not hip on SA.

The size was a bit big for me as well. I couldn't conceal it well.

Other than that, I loved the gun. It was accurate, reliable, and classy.

Great, I'm starting to have a bit of seller's remorse. I have to comfort myself with the fact that I sold it for a profit.

Chris

 

[stzd8]

WHy all the hate? let's all get along

Or did someone pistol whipped you with a Beretta? (for the record I don't have one, and I didn't pistol whipped you)

 

[JohnBT]

Why would anyone name a gun after the Chevy Beretta?

JT

 

[fjolnirsson]

I don't hate (barettas, berrettas, berattas, sp?), but when I've tried to use them, I find the grip to be overly large for my stubby little fingers. Just not comfortable.
Unfortunately, I learned to shoot through taking a reserve Police course, so the only other option was a Glock, since I had no semi-auto of my own. As a result, I'm most likely corrupted forever. I like the ergonomics of a Glock, and I find the trigger pull most pleasing.

 

[Sean Smith]

What we obviously have here is Skunkycasm, kind of like Sarcasm, only more so.



I dislike them, and based on personal experience distrust them. But I can say that of alot of things.

But 44 oz? I don't think my bull-barrel 1911 in 10mm weighs that much unloaded. And even I wouldn't hold the fact that some of these wondernines increase their weight by 50% when you load them against them.

 

[Hawk]

OK, I'll play.
With respect to the 92G.

1. It has front slide serrations AND a loaded chamber indicator (lipstick on the extractor). Obviously designed by one who wears a belt with his suspenders.

2. Barrel exposed? Big deal. What's with the other moving exposed parts? Particularly puzzling is a black plastic-looking rectangular affair that extends from the back top of the slide when the trigger is pulled. WTH IS that thing? A "you pulled the trigger" indicator? Perhaps an "all's well with the firing pin block" indicator? Something to be duct taped down to inhibit accidental discharges?

3. I'm not even clear on what the locking block is, but I know it'll fracture and imbed the slide in my eye socket. Is it that thing at the rear of the barrel with the plunger, ramp and 2 black doohickeys that engage the slide when everything's working? Between those things and the firing pin block monitor,the slide is like an HO scale diarama of a west Texas oilfield - what with all that "up and down" action going on.

4. There's an unconfirmed rumor afoot that the "G" in "92G" stands for "Gendarme". French desginations should be restricted to the Grand Puissance Modele de 1935 n'cest pas? Why'd they keep the little red dot if the de-cocker can't be made to cover it short of "C"-clamping it in position? Operating the decocker requires a grip that would shatter a coconut. That may loosen up before the locking block explodes - time will tell.

5. It has a plastic guide rod. Sure it works, but will it survive if I dump it in MEK? Real ninjas keep MEK handy to clean their kits, as it were. Why would anyone save .0003 grams with a plastic guide rod in a 6 pound handgun with a brigadoon slide, anyway?

6. The sights got no white dots. Texas qualifying targets are dark blue. I can't see the sights. When using the official target I don't shoot groups, I shoot patterns - somewhere between "cylinder" and "skeet".

7. It's boring. It lacks drama. It never malfunctions and shoots exactly to POA (when I can find a white target). It has no recoil. My ninja buddies and the range babes think I'm shooting an airsoft. The mec-gar 17 round magazines actually work 100%. My arms get tired.

8. The graphics on the side remind me of tassles on bike handlebars. The barrel crown is presumptuous and a pain to clean - so I stopped cleaning the thing altogether. It still runs.

Don't even get me started on my 3032 Ti. At least the 92G HAS an extractor.

 

[Black Majik]

Although I find the Berettas 92/96 FS's to be gorgeous guns, they simply dont work for me. I found the stock trigger pull to be quite vague, the DA pull to be long. Yes the gun is heavy for a 9mm, but I do tend to like more weight to my pistols for a range gun. I dont CCW yet, so weight to me, isn't a factor. The sights on the gun are also more difficult to acquire than other guns for me for some reason. And the main factor that is bugging me about Beretta is that their prices are moving up, but they're putting more and more plastic parts in their guns. Plastic slidestops, safeties, takedown lever?! Lost my business right there. Even Glock doesn't use plastic for their slidestops

Their INOX guns were absolutely beautiful to look at. Now with those black plastic controls... well...

Berettas do have some things going for them. Their guns do have some heft to them so they are useful range guns. Put on some different sights and rework the trigger a little bit and you have a great beginner gun. The 92FS doesn't recoil very much. It would be a nice gun to show a beginner to the sports.

The Beretta is DA/SA. True tacticals don't do DA/SA. That's why the Navy SEALs went to Sig 226s. DA/SA in Beretta = bad, you have to learn TWO trigger pulls! DA/SA in Sig = tacticool, because the Navy SEALs use it.

Hey Jeff,

The standard P226 is a DA/SA gun. Unless you mean the P226 with the DAK trigger? Actually I dunno which P226 the Navy SEALS is using...

 

[denfoote]

I hate Beretta because, despite what those jurors heard, I still think he killed his wife!!!

I also think OJ got away with murder!!!

 

[tetchaje1]

It's a joke people. The day that Skunk actually disparages his beloved Beretta is the day that pigs fly...

 

[rockstar.esq]

Firstly, if your doll hands can't wrap themselves around that fine Italian grip, you might consider something a little more femmine like a pink fuzzy derringer! The exposed barrel on a deer rifle is part of the character of the firearm. Most people don't head into the woods with a AR style forend that covers the barrel from stem to stern. How many times have you actually seen a dented barrel on a 92? I mean really, where did you get this from? By the way, revolvers have exposed barrels too. The locking system of the 92 doesn't require the barrel to tilt, cam, or jam like the famous 1911! The 92 is reliable without the necessary rattle of the 1911. :banghead: I'd rather put a little oil on a gun than spend over a grand just to get it to shoot properly. Once again, if oiling a gun offends you, perhaps the shooting sports are not for you..

 

[RyanM]

The only thing that I genuinely don't like about Berettas is that goofy, slide-mounted, flip-up safety. Of course, being DA/SA, I guess it's relatively safe to just keep the hammer down and safety off.

 

[Rupestris]

The onlt thing that sucks about Beretta is the fact that none of them have found their way into my safe yet.
I'd even own a 9000

 

[Bobby Lee]

" if oiling a gun offends you, perhaps the shooting sports are not for you."

I have no problem having a sporting arm that requires lube to keep it working. Toys are toys and some are even fun to maintain and clean.

But I would not have any carry gun that is carried everyday that is used for the defense of my life and the life of my family that requires lube before it is reliable.

 

[dmallind]

No dog in this fight but didn't like the Beretta I tried either - I have girly hands despite weighing about 280 so found the reach a tad uncomfortable, and I generally prefer consistent trigger pulls too.

But then again MY 1911 is only a 28oz gulp of haterade - empty cup that is. 16 rounds of 9mm can be achieved in the same weight or less with a full cup!

 

[Sam]

4 points I haven't brought up before:

#1. We didn't really need those Cruise missile basing rights in Sicily
#2. Have a hard time taking weapons serious when they are developed by countries with a loosing military tradition. When they announced adoption, the first thing that came to mind was Haille Sellasse and company riding over the hill on horseback with swords and jezails and Berettafans screaming and running like their heads was on fire and their @$$ was a catchin'.
#3 Hammer drop safeties still scare me after that P38 cut loose and put a hole in my bedroom floor.
#4 The salesman was fat, kept walking around with his hands on his hips when he wasn't wildly gesturing, and could go for 6 hours non stop. Reminded me of Benito Mussolini

the comfort level was never there.



Sam

 

[Tom Servo]

The Beretta is DA/SA. True tacticals don't do DA/SA. That's why the Navy SEALs went to Sig 226s. DA/SA in Beretta = bad, you have to learn TWO trigger pulls! DA/SA in Sig = tacticool, because the Navy SEALs use it

Man, I've heard that SAME logic so many times it must be right! I'm still a little confused, but man am I the ultimate tactical mall-ninja with my Sig!

The slide might come off and kill you.

True. Actually, that could happen with any semiautomatic. That's why I use Locktite to lube all my slides and internals. Haven't been to the range in awhile, but I'm sure they still work fine.

The Beretta is heavy. A 44 ounce gun with 16 rounds of 9mm is inefficient. A 44 ounce gun with 9 rounds of .45 is efficient.

Plus, as we all know, .45 rounds can lift a 200lb man and throw him across the room. Using ball. I know this because a bunch of guys at the gun shop told me. Same guys that told me about point #1.

...seriously, I love the Beretta, I just wish they made it with a thinner grip.

 

[wolf]

(speakin in whisper mode-ON) there is the cougar line .. 9/40/357/45...all wonderful...fit most hands like a glove..mostly metal parts..very low recall on all models..good for ccw..great prices on used models...(speakin in whisper mode-OFF)

beretta DISCONTINUED THE COUGAR

wolf

 

[recondoc]

I'll bite on this hook:
M9: While in the desert, required 5-8 cleanings a day just to be able to cycle the slide. If not brushed out after about 2-3 hours, slide would be locked up with grit and have to be hammered open with my knife handle.
While running an AP brush up into the mag well, I felt a pinging senation on the top of my boot. I found the trigger bar tension spring on the deck. Had that been at night, I would have had a non-functioning anchor strapped to my hip.
When I actually needed it to go bang, it did. But only for the first round. Issue mags were hideous.
Doc

 

[outofbattery]

The onlt thing that sucks about Beretta is the fact that none of them have found their way into my safe yet.
I'd even own a 9000

The funniest thing about my 9000S is that everyone wants to try it out to see if it's as big a dog as they've been made out to be yet virtually everyone ends up loving it after a few magazines . It's definately a pistol that deserves a range trial and not just a heft from the shelf , I got it as an inexpensive plinker and have ended up CCWing it quite a bit . It fits into a Bianchi OWB originally meant for a P225/226 like butter and the width is no longer is an issue to me . Not that it's the be all and end of of handguns but they ain't too shabby once you get to know one .

I know my sanity of CCWing a 9000S while SIG's stay at home is going to be questioned but eh , I like to pretend that I'm a younger , taller , fatter , less well coiffed , non cult affiliated Tom Cruise from time to time

 

[Marko Kloos]

...seriously, I love the Beretta, I just wish they made it with a thinner grip.

Ah, but they do. They call it the 92/96 Vertec.