just got off the phone with the wilderness, pre-ordered my "1.5 five stitch instructors belt in OD GREEN. they expect to ship around the end of january. something about OD that sucks me in, even all my surefires are OD(HAIII). i'm glad they finally got around to offering OD, i always thought it would be a nice fit in their product line. they currently have "1.75OD in stock, according to their site anyway.