There is Always One

[Plano11]

Bringing out a variety of JHP's to try out at 25 yds this morning.

Getting warmed up with the Gold Dots. Some good, straight shooting ammo. I'm just not holding the pistol firmly at the start.

First ten floated around some. Second ten came together better. Now to work on keeping them all in the black.

 

[DMW1116]

I've been trying to do that for a while now. I've done it once or twice, but not consistently. All my shots in the black appears to be a good hurdle.

 

[DMW1116]

Just revisiting with another rifle instance. 3 shots in 0.4” and then the 4th took a hard left.

Does anyone else get grief for shooting pistols at 25 yards? I get strange looks and questions like “why are your shooting so far?” and “you can’t claim self defense shooting that far. Why not shoot closer”.

 

[Larry in wyoming]

Folks at my range are more polite than to question another shooter. Unless of course we know each other and are just trash talking.

 

[commygun]

Need to develop a checklist in your head that you follow as soon as you step up to the line, and run through it every single shot. If you mess up, step back from the line and go again.

As I told my son, when we were practicing longbow and he’d bobble the draw, “don’t take this shot, take the next one”.

I thought it was pretty Zen, so it was probably nonsense.

 

[kidneyboy]

Does anyone else get grief for shooting pistols at 25 yards?

Not me. I've had people watch but never any negative feedback.

 

[DMW1116]

I guess our range has some people that only think of shooting a pistol as a personal protection endeavor. Probably didn’t help I was shooting my Shield and Canik. The Canik is a capable target gun. The Shield, not so much.

 

[kimberkid]

When I’m shooting for group size, it’s more of a test or what the gun can & ammo is capable of. That’s when I shoot off the bench with a bipod or bag in the front and a bag in the rear.

When I’m shooting off-hand or with a sling it shows me how bad I am … to compensate for a flyer, I’ll shoot 6 rounds and only measure the best 5

 

[SterlingBullet]

If anyone at the range sees your target, just tell them you have a bad head cold, sneezing and coughing. Good cover story and they’ll stay an extra lane away from you.
Don’t worry, SterlingMoney can shift the blame to anything else, just ask my wife.

 

[trackskippy]

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Ive had a number of guns that would shoot like that every time, regardless of ammo or load. With them, it was normally the first "cold shot" that was apart from those that followed. With those rifles, I zeroed or will zero the guns to the cold shot.

If youre trying to shoot for groups, I think one of the worst things you can do is look at each shot through your spotter before youre done. At least I always seem to do better if I dont look. Just shoot the group, and read'em and weep.

 

[Hokkmike]

Took some friends from Los Angeles to the range. Let them shoot some of my guns. One kid wasn't bad.

After they finished I fired ONE SHOT that happened to hit dead center on the X in the middle of the target. I stopped immediately. I wanted them to remember me that way.

 

[BreechFace]

Took some friends from Los Angeles to the range. Let them shoot some of my guns. One kid wasn't bad.

After they finished I fired ONE SHOT that happened to hit dead center on the X in the middle of the target. I stopped immediately. I wanted them to remember me that way.

Mic drop

 

[mavracer]

Ive had a number of guns that would shoot like that every time, regardless of ammo or load. With them, it was normally the first "cold shot" that was apart from those that followed. With those rifles, I zeroed or will zero the guns to the cold shot.

If youre trying to shoot for groups, I think one of the worst things you can do is look at each shot through your spotter before youre done. At least I always seem to do better if I dont look. Just shoot the group, and read'em and weep.

Two points
First as already addressed this gun doesn't throw the cold bore shot and the flier was actually the last shot.
Second gun has a 5-25x scope so no spotting scope needed to see where shots go.

 

[trackskippy]

I only mentioned the cold shots as thats what you often see with groups like that.

As to yours, the second point is very often the likely cause. Best not to look (if possible) till youre done.

 

[doubleh]

The flyer is always the shooter.

Not always with 22 LR.

I have shot handguns for many years and actually became a pretty good shot but several years ago my groups began to enlarge and my fliers became more frequent and the trend has continued. My conclusion, It's not the ammo or the gun but ME. Time erodes your skills no matter who you are or what skill it is.

 

[jmorris]

I’m not as good as I used to be but I cheat real good…



All 10 in the same hole, to prove it can happen.


Now get back to work.

 

[DMW1116]

Still throwing one in random directions.

 

[DMW1116]

Add one more to the rifle pile too.

 

[DMW1116]

And back to my Victor pistol. I knew that one was high but didn’t know how high until I went to pull the target.

 

[Thomasss]

My answer would be some type of loose grip would cause the gun to slip upon firing. I really like my heavy grips on my 586 and I didn't slip as shown in my photo today.
I can attribute my flyers to getting tired or a sweaty hand slipping while shooting. And I have my share, but not always. The photo is what I shot today at 9 yards. Six shots, 3 in one hole at 4 0'clock. S&W 586, 6 inch, 124 grain XTP over 8.0 grains of Longshot. I over compensated for left handed shots shooting a 6 o'clock hold with full loads.

 

[hps1]

Yep

I call it the last shot syndrome.....overconfidence/lack of concentration!



Sitting RF 100 yds