There's no such thing as a P225

[Dannyboy]

At least according to the guy behind the counter at the gunshop yesterday.

So, I go in to buy some .308 ammo. I get what I want and then I start looking at the pistols in the cases. One case has a bunch of stuff on top so there isn't a whole lot of light getting in. I see a Sig P22-something. With the angle and lack of light, I can't make out the last number. It looked a bit like it could have been a 5. There's a single stack magazine laying on the shelf right next to the gun so I'm thinking, "Cool, a 225." I ask the guy if the gun is a 225 and he says, "No, that's a 226. There's no such thing as a 225."

There really is no point to this story. I just thought it was amusing. I can't really fault the guy for not knowing what the 225 is, it's not like Sig still makes them. There's also the fact that this place is more of a cop-shop. They're geared more towards law enforcement, which would explain the whole case full of Glocks.

 

[briansp82593]

i had 2 different guys at one shop on the same day try to sell me 2 different guns said they were new and were black as tires.... fnp 40 @ 480.00 s&w 686 2in @ 625.00 i laughed at them and left

 

[FIFTYGUY]

No more P225's from SIG?

That's a shame. A buddy of mine had one, and we thought it was a very nice carry gun. Real high quality, and classy.

 

[ugaarguy]

No more P225's from SIG?

That's a shame. A buddy of mine had one, and we thought it was a very nice carry gun. Real high quality, and classy.

On the bright side the German police surplus P225s, marked P6, are available for under $400. http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Sig_Sauer_P225_P6_9mm_Pistol.html

 

[Dannyboy]

On the bright side the German police surplus P225s, marked P6, are available for under $400. http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/S...mm_Pistol.html

Sweet!

 

[universal]

Next time you go to the gun shop ask him what sidearm the Berlin, Germany police department's 25,000 officers carry.

I have never understood why so many gunstore employees, it seems, don't make more of an effort to know what they sell. I like the guys in the store I use most often but lately they have made such little effort when asked to help me find something that I have started ordering more stuff from the internet. I usually don't mind paying a little more for the service, but when the service is not there, I rather save money by going elsewhere.

 

[ruckus3008]

I think that all gun store employees should be REQUIRED to spend time on forums like this to learn more about the stuff in front of them.

 

[mmmarkiep]

If you have a Gander Mountain in your area, they're selling them for $399 right now.

 

[Ala Dan]

From My Experience

Before I got into the firearms sales end of things, I too have been in gun
shops only to find that some of the sales personel were "way off mark"
with some of the out landish things they would say. You could fill large
volumes with what some persons [to include myself], don't know a'bout
guns; but two things are for sure: a) I will NEVER lie too you, and b) if
I don't know an answer to your question, I will seek help and find out
the correct information for you.

Back on topic, probably this sales person didn't know the difference
between SIG models 225, 226, or 228~?

 

[GreenFurniture]

That's a laugh.

Clearly that was someone who worked at that store for the "cool" factor.

 

[tbreed725]

i looked high and low looking for a sig pro i called my local outdoor store who said they could order it i finnally got the time tpo go there low and behold was the sig i was wanting the dealer said it mustve been taken out of layaway ( yea right) it was in a spot for a 239 i got it brand new with siglite nightsites for $509.00

 

[Storm]

You would think that gun shop employees would make the effort to know the products that they sell. I think the vast majority do, but you are going to run into some who don't know and then. I did yesterday.

I was at Bass Pro shop (not really a gun shop) and was in the hunting/gun department to buy some Plano ammo cans. Before I left I stopped to look at their handgun magazines. I was amazed to find them selling 10 round Glock magazines for pistols with higher capacity. Other magazines were regular capacity, but the Glocks were ten rounders. An employee noticed me looking through the magazines and came over to ask me if I needed help. I asked him why they were selling 10 round magazines for Glocks. He told me that is all that a Glock holds. I told him that was incorrect, and at random picked up a magazine for a Glock 21. I told him that the G21 holds 13 and that they were only selling a 10 round mag (Georgia has no restrictions on capacity). He said that three rounds was no big deal. I then picked up a 10 round Glock 17 magazine and asked the employee if seven rounds was a big deal. He still didn't see a big difference. I told him that in the most extreme case the difference could be life and death and that selling magazines like this, for full retail plus, was the kind of thing that pisses shooters off. Magazines like that are being given away. It all fell on deaf ignorant ears. This is why I will never buy a gun at Bass and will only buy there that which I can't get elsewhere.

 

[silversport]

the differences between someone who works sales and a salesman I guess...when I bought my Mazda 6 with 6 speed automatic the sales guy said "No, it is only a 5 speed Auto"...funny thing is, the numbers showing what gear you're in show up on the IP...he had no answer when I asked why it went to 6...(now the year before, it WAS a 5 speed but...if this is what you do for a living, why not know it)...happens with EVERY job...had a guy tell me he was having a problem getting his mag into his pistol...I had to explain that the .40S&W doesn't do well in a 9MM pistol...and he should have known better...
Bill

 

[1911 guy]

Sometimes things happen fast.

I go to one particular shop pretty frequently. It's dark and dingy and smells like cigar smoke, but they have an excellent selection of longguns and handguns and very personable counter help. I'm out handgun shopping with my Dad (his birthday present, there's a thread about how it turned out) and the topic of the XD45 Compact comes up. Guy behind the counter swears they don't make the compact in .45acp, just the .40 and below calibers. The point of this is (I realize this doesn't fit some examples given above) that handguns are being produced so fast right now due to the large numbers of us CCW'ers that some new designs or modifications sneak up on otherwise intelligent gun folks. After all, who saw an Armalite pistol coming?

 

[aryfrosty]

Gun misidentification

I spend my time between several local gun shops. But one I don't go around anymore refused to order Beretta 96 D Centurion 10 round mags for me even thought I am a retired LEO with a current ID. (This was in the Billary days). I told the gentleman that the so-called "Hi-Caps" for the 96 D Centurion held 11 rounds and I would be very happy with 10 rounders...But he said that pistol was a "Police Only" weapon and I shouldn't even have it. He must have been a plant from the Brady bunch of yo-yos. I refuse to buy anything from a person who doesn't know anything about what he's selling.

 

[Dannyboy]

The P225 is a fairly obscure pistol so I could understand him not having heard of it before. My problem was with the way he matter of factly said that there was no such thing.

 

[GreenFurniture]

Obscure? Are you kidding me? Those aren't as obscure as the P210.

 

[silversport]

except for the bazillion they have made they are obscure...
Bill

 

[Tom Servo]

No such thing. Nothing to see here. Move along, move along.

One time, I was deep in the North Georgia mountains late at night. I may have been licking toads, but I swear there was a bright light in the sky. Then the UFO came down. They started unloading crates and crates of Bigfoots. Elvis and Janis were doing the unloading. I asked the King what his fine German sidearm was. He responded, "son, this here's the Sig Sauer P225. Where I'm goin', I won't be needin' it, so take it."

What am I gonna do? Say no?!? Heck no. I took her home, slapped some Trijicons and Nill grips on, and now she's my late-fall/early-winter carry gun:



Funny thing is, there seem to be MORE of them on the market since they were decommissioned. If you don't have one, get it. Best ergos os any Sig out there.

 

[kmrcstintn]

***warning, this posting contains some sarcasm to emphasize a point***

one day while making rounds thru my local Gander Mountain, I got into a chat with a salesperson working firearms and we started talking about the new Bass Pro Shop in the area and their limited and pricey selection in their used gun room...we moved onto other aspects of Bass Pro's practices...

I told him that I didn't like their customer service due to the fact that they won't remove the trigger locks and allow a few trigger pulls to make sure it's a comfortable and managable gun to fire; he retorted by saying that he was in there a time or two and got to know one of the salepersons since they belonged to the same gun & rod club; the Bass Pro guy comes over to Gander Mountain and observes the Gander Mountain guy REMOVING a trigger lock and ALLOWING a customer to try the trigger; the Bass Pro guy is SHOCKED and IN AWE over such a HANEOUS ACT!!!

The Gander Montain guy got a mental chuckle over his reaction and explained that it is a common practice and that it can actually help sell a firearm to anyone that may not be experienced and they may lean toward a gun that has a lighter trigger pull and easier controls to manipulate; the Bass Pro guy explained that CORPORATE POLICY forbids it and any salesperson removing trigger locks will be terminated;

I find the story to be humorous and sad at the same time...this was an example about how some gun stores and gun salespeople are still in the dark ages. Good Day!

 

[nelson133]

My local Gander Mountain has a gun in the used case marked as a P225 Sig. Someone needs to let them know that this gun doesn't really exist.

 

[Texfire]

Just out of curiosity, do you guys recommend the P225? First I've heard of it, though I am familiar with the reputation for quality handguns that SIG enjoys. Does the single stack make it a thinner gun?

I've always found SIG double stacks a little bulky in my hands when I've manhandled them at the local shop, though to be fair the last one was a P220. I'd probably have one by now, but the price combined with the southpaw unfriendly placement of the decocker has held me back.

Tex

 

[DirksterG30]

Just out of curiosity, do you guys recommend the P225? First I've heard of it, though I am familiar with the reputation for quality handguns that SIG enjoys. Does the single stack make it a thinner gun?

I find the 225 fits my hand far better than any other SIG. I'd recommend it in a heartbeat. They are no longer imported into the country (by SIG), so spare part and supplies are not as easy to find, but still available. There have been a bunch of German police P6's (their designation for the P225) tham come to the US from time to time.

Spare mags and such are available at Top Gun Supply.

Here's mine:

 

[plexreticle]

Something about gunstore clerks, if they have never heard about it it never existed. Most think they are more of an expert on everything than everybody.

I was chatting up a class 3 dealer once (years ago) and told him about how the Army is comming out with a new AR variant called the m4. He didn't hear about it yet so it wasn't true as if I made it up.

 

[silversport]

Texfire,
When I bought my first SiG Sauer pistol in 1986 (P226-9MM) I purchased it because it is very "Southpaw Friendly."
With just a bit of practice (it feels odd at first) you can operate the mag release (I originally changed my other SiGs mag releases...you CAN'T on a P225 but had since changed them back to their "normal" position) with your trigger finger...you can operate the decocker with your trigger finger and you operate the slide by the "slingshot" method...try this a bit and you will be every bit as fast...or faster than your "righty" pals...
I just bought my first P225...back in 1986 I hated the P225 (EVERYONE was into the "Wunder-nines" and their high capacity back then) when a buddy who has moved up the chain of Command and abandonned his rarely shot but cosmetically challenged P225 decided (with my help) to sell his P225...I got it for a good price, sent it to SiGARMS for the SSP (SiG Service Plan) which gave it the once over by their smiths...full cleaning, replacement of most springs (the ones that wear), and put a fresh set of night sights (albeit Meprolites) on...my standard sights were damaged by the previous owner...I had SiGARMS Nitron the slide and frame...paid a bit more than I intended but what I got back is a like new P225 vintage 1987...my trigger is like "buttah" (it was before as well) and now looks great...lightweight (I always preferred the stamped and folded steel slides of the earlier SiGs)...easy to conceal, nice mag capacity (9 with one in the chamber), safe like all SiGs...and now love the P225...easier to carry than my P228 (that I miss but it was heavier) and MUCH better than my P239 (which I NEVER warmed to)...good luck with your search!



Bill