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Think I figured out why Cuomo came up with 7

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Tinker, Jan 18, 2013.

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  1. Tinker

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    I've been wondering why Cuomao (not a typo :) ) came up with the 7 round mag limit.

    Think about it.....what is just as American as apple pie, Coca-cola and Chevrolet? A Browning 1911. I'm, unfortunatly, not a 1911 owner, but I believe 7 was the original mag capacity on the originals, right? He had to stop at that number. Just think about the bad PR he would have had to hack through infringing on that territory. The sidearm that helped the Greatest Generation stop Hitler. A true American icon. That might have even drawn a long stare from non-gun folk.

    Our side could have dragged up surviving WWII war heroes to make him look bad. NRA doctored clips of Saving Private Ryan and he only has five shots, etc.

    The marxists hate that we have anything larger than a Red Ryder, secretly. Take the Glocks as an example. The libs jumped on that with all three feet when it came out of the gate: "It is totally plastic and is invisible to airport security scanners.....holds 399 rounds.....is radioactive.....is the ideal crime/highjacker gun and needs to be banned......NOW!", etc.

    What do you folks think?
     
  2. cl4de6

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    I would not be surprised if this were the exact reason.

    On the other hand, it is also possible that someone on his staff had a 1911 and that person said: "Whoa, Andy. That gun was my granddad's!"

    I've often wondered why Chicago came up with a 12 round limit when they could have come up with anything or went down to 10 like most of the reduced capacity states. The only thing I can think of was that somebody on the Mayor's staff owned an HK45.

    Hey, an Assemblyman in NJ submitted a proposal to bring us down to 5. And we are fighting it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T37x7DVciYI
     
  3. carbuncle

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    My guess was that they figured this would be a de facto ban as it wipes out the magazine supply for any double stack gun and the number is so odd that companies would have to tool up specifically for NYS, which is probably not in the cards.
     
  4. Kiln

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    This.

    They picked seven rounds because everybody already had ten rounds.

    Next it'll be five rounds, then three, then single shots, then only airsoft guns. Welcome to the United Kindom of America.
     
  5. goldie

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    (an Assemblyman in NJ submitted a proposal to bring us down to 5.)Im really getting sick of this crap,this needs to stop! We are in the worst era of gun control in the 200 year history of this country.We are heading back to 1775 real fast....
     
  6. Solo

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    Five? Heck, we should support them restricting it to one. That makes it easier for the law to be overturned in court.
     
  7. Tom from WNY

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    Allowing the 1911

    Unfortunately, the more common .45 ACP magazines for the full size pistol are now 8 round. However, you have something here....since the 1911 is my all time favorite, that's a plus; for what it's worth. Another 7 round is my Kel-Tec pieces.

    The capacity restriction still stinks. .22 lr handguns are mostly 10 round, my full size 9mm's are about useless now.

    If the intent was to eliminate concealed carry; the SAFE act will actually encourage it; most subcompacts are 7 round or less; the new Springfield XDs is a 5 round .45 ACP (and is looking quite good about now).
     
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    I live in the great state of Nevada and would like to comment. Here in NV we continue to live under the constitution unencumbered by zealots.

    Tom from WNY

    At face value that may appear to be true. But with this draconian law also came the change that permits are no longer good until revoked, to must renew every 5 years and it's based on shall issue. That opens the door for long delays, justifying "need" and paying fees every 5 years.

    And, like any good gun banner, I don't see Cuomo going out and hiring addition staff to accommodate the huge increase in workload required to process permits; now everyone in the entire state of NY at the same time every 5 years from Jan 16, 2013.

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  9. Sun195

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    That's my thinking also - can't ban Grandpa's handgun. But, today it's seven, tomorrow it's ??
     
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    you cannot rationalize socialism.
     
  11. jrmiddleton425

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    I hate to say it, but my NRA field rep knows Dean Skelos, who wrote the bill. He has a large collection of 1911 pistols. He has no problem banning everyone else's gun, as long as HIS aren't banned.
     
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    Well, first start with a good premise: Chevrolet is a Chinese/Asian company now, that stole TARP money to build factories in China, India, and South Korea. If there was a gun that "won" WWII, I don't think it was a pistol, though the 1911 has beautiful history therein.

    Cuomao ( I really like that) has no logical reasoning in what he does or does not do; such is the way of criminals and their paths.

    So, here's a nit-picking legal ? for you NYers: Is there a mag. conversion kit which makes 10 rders into 7s, which is legal? ....or does everything have to be a factory produced 7 rder?





     
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    Isn't Kimber based in NY? Maybe they wanted to try to protect their sales.
     
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    His reasoning is immaterial, the whole idea of a mag capacity limit is pointless nonsense.

    If the courts don't shoot it down in NY, I know quite a few people that are already look at property in other states... NY will lose out in the end.
     
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    Maybe Cuomo carries a Nagant revolver - seven rounds. A commie pistol for a commie Governor. ;)

    <Note: No disrespect to the venerable Nagant, I like mine. And my Colt M1991A1 likes it's 8-round magazines.>
     
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    His IQ?
     
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    I don't get the Cuomao joke...oh...Mao...I just got it.
     
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    Kimber is based in NY. I am sure the Governor would have made it under 5 rounds. But like all politicians he likes money, taxes, and businesses.
     
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    Y'all will have to forgive my ignurnce about 1911's, like I said. I shot a buddy's years ago, once. I came into service pistols last year on the Koolaid train. :) Hope I can afford to remedy that one day.

    Now that y'all mention Kimber I bet that was also a factor.....Cuomo's body guard overhears mention of a five round limit and points out that his personal, NY made pistol only holds 7. The guard is a former snake eater who's grandad carried the hallowed GI issue .45 in WWII, etc. Cuomo: "Didn't think about that.....that might be too big a bite."
     
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    They could not count past 7 -
     
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    Posts: 28 I hate to say it, but my NRA field rep knows Dean Skelos, who wrote the bill. He has a large collection of 1911 pistols. He has no problem banning everyone else's gun, as long as HIS aren't banned.

    This.
     
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    They wanted to include the M1 rifle and the SKS in the ban, as well as the Johnson, the Ljungman, G43 and dozens of other rifles Cuomo saw as a "threat" to his rule.

    Jim
     
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    Yup, the Garand is 8, and scary. Tyrants have been scared of the Garand since 1935. They should be.
     
  24. goldie

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    They make 5 rd enbloc clips for the garand;Now its N.Y. legal.:rolleyes:
     
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    IMO...........round all these asshats up and tar & feather'em.
     
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