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Any one else got a hankering for waffles, with real butter, maple syrup and cured ham on the side?
Oh, I'd like some orange juice made from real oranges "squoze" on a glass juicer too.
How about fresh strawberries and real whipped cream?
 
years back i worked at a bar that was about a half mile from an aerospace company... they built the drones that were used to test the patriot missile among other things that were more classified... well it was quite common for their employees to come in for 25cent wing night and they would spend all evening there...

one night while they were in, one of the cooks goes off on a rant about how something wasnt being done right and finishes by yelling out "and it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out!!!".. to which i look at him with a straight face and asked "Oh really?" pointing out to the bar tables... "why dont we go ask one?"...

he was laughing too hard to remember why he had been upset...
 
For the Politicians

It is the intent of the user of a tool - not the tool itself.

Anything can be for good or evil, it is the intent that determines.

The famed bean soup served in Senate restaurants can be for good or evil.
The proceeds from the sale of the soup might be used for a charity one day, such as a daycare needing some supplies.
That same bowl of soup can be thrown at someone to hurt them intentionally , if nothing more than ruining a nice set of clothes.


A book of matches can be used to light B-Day candles for a child, or used by an Arsonist to burn down a building.

A screwdriver can be used to pry open a can of paint to paint a room for a baby or be used by a criminal to shiv a old person on the street to take their money.

The right of the people to keep and bear arms, is the reason you elected officials have the elected duties you do.
Firearms were used with the intent to be free of tyranny and be a free people.
You swore an oath to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.

Politicians- what is your intent?
 
There is a certain joy to doing the same things others do with less sophisticated equipment.
But that doesn't mean the sophisticated equipment is worthless.
For instance, look at computers.
We all know they're marketed to people. Duh!
We all know Apple has a stick up their behind, you can tell it from their marketing.
But that doesn't mean their products are worthless. Far from it, Apple makes fine computers.
Do people buy more than they need? Yep. They sure do.
But that doesn't mean some of those things don't have a use. A single-shot 20 gauge would be considered ultra-high tech by your great-grandfather, and he might say something like "If you can't hit it with the first shot, you shouldn't be shooting at it!"
Everyone acknowledges that single-shot 20 gauges are fine weapons. You do.
Your typewriter is an incredible piece of technology compared to the presses that had to be used in days past. Some might say "if it ain't worth sending to the printers, then it probably isn't worth being written down!"
But the reality of the situation is that the typewriter is a great innovation, and is second only to its successor, the word processor.
Technology progresses. Swim with it. Use it. But have some fun every once in a while kicking the pants off the young 'uns with stuff they've never used.
By the way, I know how to use a typewriter, a slide rule and a phonograph. Not bad for a 17-year-old, eh?
 
I'm a 1950 model. I can remember when we got our first TV, but I can't remember not having one... too much other stuff to do outdoors back then. When I got into college, I had to get a typewriter. I picked up an old Remington Standard #10 at the Salvation Army Warehouse, built in the early 'teens... bird doo fell out of it for months as I typed, and I pounded the keys so hard a lamp fell off the end of my desk once. It still works just fine. Pocket calculators were at best rich man's toys, and slide rules were required for many of my college, (and even high school) classes. Computers were BIG things used by scientists and such, and the internet would have been unimaginable. Maybe life wasn't really better, but it was simpler.
I still like old guns, still shoot old guns, and can still feel my late father standing behind me when I shoot one of HIS old guns...
I feel pretty lucky to have lived when I did. I'd hate to be a kid now...
Marty
 
What's so bad about being a kid now? Maybe I'm just getting old. It seems like there are just too many rules, too much organization, and too many ways to get into serious trouble... When I was a kid, the usual routine when you weren't in school was to basically disappear outdoors. "Come back home when the street lights come on." We were expected to entertain ourselves, and keep out of trouble, and we usually did both with no problems.
Marty
 
I grew up with half of that stuff, but my typewriter was a GE electric with manual return bar. I had pong with tank as my first video game (still have it with the Atari I got in Jr High). I learned to shoot on a 10g double barrel shotgun, then a .22lr Ruger standard. I push mowed lawns, raked leaves, and did chores to earn pocket money for .22 shells. I had a fishing pole and a .22 and I wasnt allowed in the house till supper was called.
Things have changed, not necessarily for the better. There is no responsibility or accountability with todays kids. I think the lack of corpral punnishment is a big factor.
 
What's so bad about being a kid now? Maybe I'm just getting old. It seems like there are just too many rules, too much organization, and too many ways to get into serious trouble... When I was a kid, the usual routine when you weren't in school was to basically disappear outdoors. "Come back home when the street lights come on." We were expected to entertain ourselves, and keep out of trouble, and we usually did both with no problems.
Marty
Eh, school's a lot more of a hassle and less of an actual education, and there's less places to just go outside, but you mostly sleep through school when you can and go outside when you can. I go outside all the time. Just romped in the woods today, in fact.
What do we have? We have community. Not like the "it takes a village to raise a child" community, but the Internet community. With the Internet, we can get more information more quickly, we can learn more quickly (the 'Net's been far more of a classroom than school ever has been), and we can talk to each other at lightspeed. This means, for some of us, that we grow up faster.
We have a better standard of living in many cases. We have a better path set before us.
Now we have problems. lack of role models is one, but that's something that's been around. Away/divorced parents is another. But we've got benefits, too.
I grew up with half of that stuff, but my typewriter was a GE electric with manual return bar. I had pong with tank as my first video game (still have it with the Atari I got in Jr High). I learned to shoot on a 10g double barrel shotgun, then a .22lr Ruger standard. I push mowed lawns, raked leaves, and did chores to earn pocket money for .22 shells. I had a fishing pole and a .22 and I wasnt allowed in the house till supper was called.
Things have changed, not necessarily for the better. There is no responsibility or accountability with todays kids. I think the lack of corpral punnishment is a big factor.
Really? I got whipped as a kid. I got punished all the time. People I know have more, but they can lose more, too.
Corporal punishment is a good thing sometimes, but it can also be very damaging to a child. I might be seeing some effects of that, but I might just be screwed up, too.
 
I am of the internet generation, but still appreciate old skool stuff like a REAL GAS STOVE or even a sewing machine. Still carry a pocketknife. Family doesn't get it. :(

I know I appreciated the gas stove when me and roommate needed to take a shower and the hot water wasnt running for three days. She asked, "What are we supposed to do?" I replied, "get the two big pots and boil up some hot water, thats all" The look on her face was priceless!

I still get laughed at for having an ancient landline handset and a cellphone that is easily 8 years old. Oh well the landline handset works perfectly fine during blackouts out here plus the stove. Hey I like my food. :)
 
bogie,

Re: Chemex.
I did not remember the name, I do remember how good the coffee they make is.
Brain fade on my end, still is that not also a old design?


Growing up, we finally got us a Corning Ware Percolator.
Mom was so proud of that thing.
I laughed so hard one morning, as I entered the kitchen and mom was sitting there, with this look on her face - "how much longer until the coffee is ready?"

She forgot to plug it in. *lol*

I had been out all night with mentors, assisting in a ice house.
She had been up most of the night with a sick sib.

"Well I cannot blame the new coffee pot, as the way I feel, I would have forgotten to turn the gas stove on with old coffee maker".

Some things do not change; coffee will not get made if one does not turn it "on", no matter what kind of maker one has.
 
Yeah, the Chemex is old. I remember that the chemistry set that my parents got me when I was in elementary school (Haw! Try that one today) and the chemistry books that I got around then gave directions for some "experiments" that used filter paper. We had a percolator, so my parents didn't keep filter paper in the house and I didn't know where to get it. Didn't know what a Chemex was until later.

The Melitta plastic cone that goes for a couple of bucks makes good coffee, too. I used one for years, then I guess I got lazy and I started using a drip machine like most people use. It was good to still have that plastic cone in the cupboard when I lived in the South and hurricanes put the power out for five days at a time (twice). Cleaning up after a hurricane can be a nightmare. Without coffee, it's a worse one.

Manual typewriters look cool; I still have a couple out in the barn. I'd used IBM Selectrics (excellent), then word processors (the keyboards weren't as good, but I got the work done faster) when I first discovered pre-Windows Microsoft Word. This was before MS began crushing all it surveyed and taking over the galaxy. MS Word was a revelation to me, and I loved it. Before that, I'd written things out longhand and edited on paper, then typed from a penultimate draft. For the first time, I could edit effectively on screen. I've looked back, but I never went back.

I still write some things out longhand. I seem to get different thoughts, and different kinds of thoughts, when I'm writing with a gel pen or, better yet, with an inexpensive fountain pen.

JohnBT, I've got a waffle iron like yours, but without the spiffy playing card design. I found that I couldn't get it to work well all of the time on the electric stoves that I've been using for most of my life. I had some success with it on a gas stove. However, that's not what I saw with that shape when I was a kid. The first thing that I thought when I saw your picture was, "Hey--krumkake iron." It's Norwegian christmas baking, pronounced approximately "KROOM-Kock-a." The iron is in the same configuration, but it doesn't have the waffle pattern inside. They're flat, with a filigreed, swirling pattern of shallow lines inside to give texture to the surface of the cookie. I think that December is a month when a lot of folks practice, re-learn and pass forward a lot of traditional things from those whom they remember who've gone on.

...and Steve,
sm said:
...tossing out a $15 lure that looks like a mutant , alien, tadpole to catch a fish.
Well, ours were probably more like 39 cents back then, but mutant, alien tadpoles used to be just the thing for smallmouth. ;)

On the one hand, I'm sure thankful for those folks who've spent lives in the quest to wipe out polio, smallpox and some other once-common scourges.

On the other hand, that old Remington Model 33 kids' rifle in .22LR sure is fun to shoot.
 
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On the other hand, that old Remington Model 33 kids' rifle in .22LR sure is fun to shoot
Hey, I've still got my dad's that he got new in 1932! Simple and fun!
Marty
 
When you send the letter typed on a manual it grabs the attention of the reader.

And when, you COULD have done it on a PC but didn't, you get that giddy thrill at the end--

you type "CC-self" and mean it.

Then you save your precious carbon paper for re-use. I have blue and black on hand in case of emergency.

Just bought a Western Electric Model 302 rotary phone from my neighbor's auction (late 1941 manufacture) for ten bucks. Now, we have 3 in the house--one each to go with the 3 manual typewriters.

Technology SO DURABLE it can be had for less than it cost new in most cases. Lots of firearms fall into that catagory if you look.
 
Heh...

Of course, I -am- the guy who bought a generator just so he could make LOTS of coffee for the Freak Show Tent crewe at Knob Creek...

And now we're so damn busy rolling outta the rack and running to make the opening bell that we just grab and go... I -hate- outfits that don't use -enough- coffee...

Sigh...

I use a Krups electric day to day, and the Chemex is reserved for when I'm feeling a little more "hands on." Gotta Gaggia espresso dealie too. Coffee is good, regardless, and good coffee is even better.

We'll usually do a wee dram at the Creek in the evening, before we start our wander around to see how the folks we only see every six months are doing. We may be slightly buzzed, by we're awake!

For virtually anything new, with some notable exceptions, there's something old that works just as well. A coupla weeks ago, I was privileged to shake the hands of a couple of gentlemen named Pindell and Palmisano - And their little big of magic has been working since the seventies. And I've also met Mike Walker, whose cartridge they dethroned....

What comes tomorrow?
 
It is my contention that Marketing and Sensationalism has contributed to folks being un-grateful.

We take everything for granted and do not take the time to appreciate what is important.

Oh I agree, some things in the old days have been improved upon and for the better.
I grew up with Polio victims for instance.

My take is, one should learn from the past , preserve and pass forward, while learning and incorporating the new advances.

Does not a old Model 36, with 148 grain wad cutter loads, reloaded on a old RockChucker not parallel a new 642 with 148 grain wad cutters reloaded on a Dillon?

The same correct basic fundamentals apply to shooting the guns, and using the reloaders to reload the ctgs.
Both can be used to introduce a new shooter to shooting, and reloading.


How about learning to free hand sharpen a Old Imperial pocket knife, on Arkansas Stone, a Gerber LST on a Norton stone, and Lone Wolf on DMT diamond stones?

If one learns the correct basic fundamentals, one can sharpen any of these with respective stones, while out camping , hiking, or hunting.

The kid that learns to shoot a old revolver and sharpen a old knife on a old stone, parallels a kid leaning to shoot a new revolver and sharpen a new knife offering on a new diamond DMT plate that fits in a wallet.

Don't be ungrateful.
Don't let Marketing and Sensationalism con you into thinking that old gun, reloader, knife and stone cannot still pass forward, to a kid.

Nothing wrong with having the money to buy new stuff, nor pride of ownership or even collecting.

The real deal folks, are the ones centered, and know what is truly valuable in life.
They are not conned by Marketing and Sensationalism.

If a little girl just goes nuts over a Pink Crickett, get her one.
If a little boy wants that smelly and dinged one from the gun store on the used rack - get it.

Both guns are good guns.
One is pretty and cute and soooo special.
It is passing forward how to take it apart and see all about it and how it works and everything!

The other one is really cool and neat, and the boy and adult taking it apart and cleaning it up, and refinishing it - again- passing forward to see all about it and how it works and everything!


Steve
 
Here's a scary thought.. What about when all of us are old and dead and our great great great grandbabies are saying "How could anyone survive with only that?"
 
This is why it is important : Each one- Teach one.

It does not matter what skill sets we have, or at what level we are.
We each pass on as passed to us.

Look at THR for instance.
Here we have ladies and gents, young and old sharing and passing back and forth.

Internet allows for faster communication to more folks.
This is great!

In the old days, the folks one was exposed to was more limited, and communication's were slower...

Now we have younger folks assisting older ones with computer questions, so they can access search features, or how to view a video on line on some kind of shooting , or legislative concern.

Older ones passing forward to younger ones how to reload, or shoot blackpowder, or suggesting training places - and even willing to mentor them in hunting.


Sad but true is, we have young folks that were not raised around firearms and have nobody near to mentor them.

We have those with no kids, or grandkids that have nobody near they can pass forward to.

Internet allows folks to interact and pass forward.
THR is full of persons doing just this.
A lot of it goes on behind the monitor.


Maybe the adult down the way has some aches and pains and you are young and fit.
Pick them up and drive them to the range.

Maybe you have $15 burning a hole in your pocket and , a bulk pack of .22 ammo for some kids to shoot would be neat!
Maybe a box of corn dogs, or just showing up and cooking hot dawgs, and hamburgers for a ladies day, kids day, anything.

So your are seasoned shooter and really want to shoot that day...then that single mom shows up with kid and has that look.

You can shoot another day, take the time with a kid with 4 rules and all about shooting with that kid and mom.


It is not about you - it is about them.


Steve
 
Awesome post, steve.. I think I'm gunna make hot dogs over an open flame for my fiance and her nieces tomorrow. They've made me hot dogs before, but they "grilled" them on an electric stovetop.. :barf: I ate about 10 of em, but man I was itching for the taste of charred meat, and the extreme heat right off the fire pulls a mcdonald's hot coffee trick on the weenie to make it taste even better.
 
WinchesterAA,

It is that thanks you.

Fiance' and nieces.

Well now , if you don't have a golden opportunity to pass forward!

-Get that big glass jar, like a pickle jar, and toss in some water and some tea bags to make Sun Tea.

-Fire up the charcoal grill, some great skills sets and safety tips there.

-Get the pocket knife and get some small branches/ sticks to make Hot Dawg Forks.
Marsh-mellow ones too.
Bun toaster stick, and mustard spreader as well...

-Gals like chocolate...two tin cans, one bigger with water and make a "double boiler" and toss in a Hershey candy bar or two.
For dipping the mellow in...

Now these ladies not only will have stuff passed forward if they go camping...also if the power goes out.

Have fun.
I hope you get good and sore from all the hugs you are going to get.


Steve
 
There were lots of good ole goodies left in the house we bought in 1945, including a charcoal iron. That is, an iron you ironed clothes with, except you filled it with charcoal or embers from the wood stoves that came with the house. As close as I can remember from sixty years ago, it looked like the pic below.

I swear, if I had kept half the stuff in that house and half the toys I had in the forties and fifties, I could sell 'em for a minor fortune now and retire.
 

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Simply break it down

I am huge proponent of breaking things down to the lowest level, most simple and correct basic fundamentals.

These are essentially the foundation to anything in life.

All shooting is, is repeating correct basic fundamentals.
We simply improve upon these correct basic concepts.
A person will develop problems in anything they do, including having a slump in shooting.
The problem is most often one of correct basics not being done as should.

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All edge sharpening is, is removing metal.
We simply learn the correct basic fundamentals of removing metal, and repeat these steps over and over again.

One can take a old carbon steel kitchen knife, and use correct basic fundamentals with a coarse stone to get a really sharp edge, that will cut rope, meat, cardboard,- whatever.

By the same token one can not use the correct basic fundamentals , and go from coarse, medium, and fine and have the dullest edge that will not anything.

One has to get the correct basic edge sharp first with the coarse stone.
Repeat with the medium using correct basic fundamentals until sharp.
Repeat with the fine stone using correct basic fundamentals until sharp again.

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Staying safe is best using correct basic fundamentals.

The human body is designed to protect itself.
One cannot stay in a state of total awareness 24/7/52.
The human body will allow this, it will shut down some systems, even for the shortest time, to protect itself.

If one does not get enough calcium in their diet, the human body will "steal" calcium from bone for example to get it.

By the same token, the human body will "steal" senses to use those "energies" for other needs, if nothing else allowing them to "rest" , or "refreshen".

A trained sniper in a serious hostage situation will only be allowed behind the scope for so long.
As his body , in such a intense situation, can only be effectively "up" for so long.
After that time, if a shot has to be taken, the odds of a bad shot, or miss go up exponentially.


Acceptance is the key, so one accepts they cannot be effectively "up" 24/7/52.
Denial will get one hurt or killed.


PADEE * is your friend

Preventative steps are encouraged.
Quality locks, alarms , dawgs, lighting, intercom systems, video, gates, ...
Beside being a deterrent, this allows one to "come down" , rest, refreshen, and all the human body to "heal" and "repair" itself, which it is in a constant state of doing.



Avoid
Don't go to places that one is liable to find trouble, especially if hungry, angry , lonely or tired. HALT

Avoidance, Leave if trouble shows up.

Disengage One might at the same time formulate the situation requires restraining some judgment with some form of trouble.

Escape

Evade



Steve, you did not mention the use of a gun in this
PADEE.


No, I did not.
Not all problems are solved with a firearm.

Fire is one.
One cannot be "up" 24/7/52.

The situation might be fire, where a fire alarm goes off, one feels a hot door, and uses other practiced plans to get safe.

It might mean "disengaging" from family pet inside, to make sure the baby or grandmother is safe.

The pet often times has instincts, and will use PADEE as well.


*With credit given to NTI.
 
One of these days I hope to have a childhood and teenage years I did not have.
I am not that old, just started too damn young.

I guess this is why , I have to steal away, and be with some I have to be with.
Always have, and as time passes, I appreciate this more and more.
My Mentors, ladies and gents, took time out for me, and others like me.
They grinned a lot too.

Many were like me, 'starting too damn young' and through me, passing forward to me, had some childhood, and teenage years they did not have.

i.e.
Cute 4 year old lady really wanted to shoot a pattern board with a .410 shotgun shell she help reload.
So I squat down and we do this.

She took a clay and with me holding her up, looked for holes in the pattern.
She has been paying attention.
"No math stuff!" she said *lol*

She has heard some of the other moms sharing with kids counting pellets and doing percentages and all...

She wanted me to sharpen a No. 2 pencil with my pocket knife, big eyes watching, and little hands on mine helping.

She wanted to connect the dots.
And wanted me to help.

Basically we made a picture, and used a 8 box of crayons to color it.
Granted we only had 5 crayons- still...

There is nothing like a little lady climbing up into your lap, smelling of little girl, sweat, dawg, guns, crayons, lemonade, Vienna Sausage and big eyes and big smiles get sleepy.
Her head on my chest and we nap, with our picture, I laid on a near shelf.

"Tink you" she says.
"No darlin' I tink you".

Dawg comes over, lays down next to recliner.
The mom comes in, and grins...

She sees the picture...
"Pretty neat, what is it?" she asks turning it all around.
*lol*

Some things one cannot explain, they just "are"...

This ain't rocket science...
 
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