Omaha-BeenGlockin
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I bought 2 but they haven't been shot in a while because I'm hanging on to the ammo I have until I can replace it with something cheap and available.
This Ruger caught my eye today at the LGS
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Pat Riot
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I bought a PC Carbine shortly after they came out. Well, shortly after I found one in a gun store…
Mine is in the original configuration. Soon after I bought it I decided to put a compensator on it to tame the surprising recoil. I say “surprising” as I had never shot 9mm in a long gun and was surprised by the amount of recoil it had.
Funny story: I went to my favorite LGS at the time to look for a comp to tame the recoil. The 2 vastly experienced19 year olds manning the counter that day proclaimed to me that a company would do nothing for recoil and went on to insinuate that I was a wimp. So, they didn’t sell me a comp. I bought one on line. An Odin Works “Atlas 9” (pictured below). I installed it and went back to the LGS.
My LGS had a range. One of the young clerks was there that day.
I took my PCC into the range, fired it and noticed a dramatic change on recoil and muzzle rise.
I went out to the range counter and rented their PC Carbine and invited the young nimrod to come in and check out the difference between stock and with the comp added.
He had his doubts but his doubts were washed away after firing my gun. He admitted that he and his cohort got their opinions from a forum I won’t name here, but a forum known for, shall we say, brash opinions.
Anyway, the comp does reduce felt recoil and muzzle rise but cannot do anything about the titanium (?) block slamming back and forth.
I also went online to Mcarbo and bought their recoil shock buffer, steel recoil spring cap and their trigger assy pins. The pins stay in the unit better than stock. I bought them because one day a pin fell out when taking it down for cleaning and it took me a while to find it. I may get their cheek pad, extractor and the head pin kit.
Odin Works - Atlas 9 comp.
https://www.odinworks.com/product-p/fs-mb-atlas-9-28.htm
MCARBO:
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-accessories.aspx
I also bought a Savior Urban Takedown Bag for my carbine. Unfortunately everyone is out of stock on these. Best deal was on Amazon. It’s great for toting my carbine on my motorcycle to the range.
https://www.saviorequipment.com/products/urban-takedown-rifle-takedown-case
My Ruger PC Carbine has become my favorite long gun. I do need to get a QD lower mount for that Sig Romeo 5 red dot.
Mine is in the original configuration. Soon after I bought it I decided to put a compensator on it to tame the surprising recoil. I say “surprising” as I had never shot 9mm in a long gun and was surprised by the amount of recoil it had.
Funny story: I went to my favorite LGS at the time to look for a comp to tame the recoil. The 2 vastly experienced
19 year olds manning the counter that day proclaimed to me that a company would do nothing for recoil and went on to insinuate that I was a wimp. So, they didn’t sell me a comp. I bought one on line. An Odin Works “Atlas 9” (pictured below). I installed it and went back to the LGS. My LGS had a range. One of the young clerks was there that day.
I took my PCC into the range, fired it and noticed a dramatic change on recoil and muzzle rise.
I went out to the range counter and rented their PC Carbine and invited the young nimrod to come in and check out the difference between stock and with the comp added.
He had his doubts but his doubts were washed away after firing my gun. He admitted that he and his cohort got their opinions from a forum I won’t name here, but a forum known for, shall we say, brash opinions.
Anyway, the comp does reduce felt recoil and muzzle rise but cannot do anything about the titanium (?) block slamming back and forth.
I also went online to Mcarbo and bought their recoil shock buffer, steel recoil spring cap and their trigger assy pins. The pins stay in the unit better than stock. I bought them because one day a pin fell out when taking it down for cleaning and it took me a while to find it. I may get their cheek pad, extractor and the head pin kit.
Odin Works - Atlas 9 comp.
https://www.odinworks.com/product-p/fs-mb-atlas-9-28.htm
MCARBO:
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-accessories.aspx
I also bought a Savior Urban Takedown Bag for my carbine. Unfortunately everyone is out of stock on these. Best deal was on Amazon. It’s great for toting my carbine on my motorcycle to the range.
https://www.saviorequipment.com/products/urban-takedown-rifle-takedown-case
My Ruger PC Carbine has become my favorite long gun. I do need to get a QD lower mount for that Sig Romeo 5 red dot.
Crosshair
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The M-Lock forend is WAY too heavy for what it is. That's the only flaw with that style vs the more classic look.
Riomouse911
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I love mine. Two friends shot it and both now own one of their own.
I use the Glock magazine insert.
Only issue I had was the front action screw through the stock would loosen a bit. A touch of locktite on them all and all is good
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Edit: mine is the original configuration as well.
Stay safe.
I use the Glock magazine insert.
Only issue I had was the front action screw through the stock would loosen a bit. A touch of locktite on them all and all is good
.Edit: mine is the original configuration as well.
Stay safe.
gunnerh
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Too heavy,too much fun. Everyone of my shooting buddies love it. Three of them got one. When Ruger brings out the 45acp version I well get one ,hope it uses S&W M&P mags.
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NorthBorder
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Your violin case is SICK, man. I love it.
Did you make it yourself. I noted the M- lock for end.
Did you make it yourself. I noted the M- lock for end.
Boomholzer
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That's from Peak Case. The single gun. You can get different inserts for various items. Its the only factory cut case I have, yes, a bit lazy.
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NorthBorder
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Well, I picked the Ruger up today at the LGS and took it for a spin at the range. First, I took it home and became familiar with it by actually reading the book. When I unboxed it it came with a spare picatinny rail with a screw that doubles as a sling swivel stud. As I don't see how it would fit on the free float tube in any manner I am thinking it is standard hand guard. It came with 2 inserts to lengthen the stock so I added one insert. It seemed to help because initially I had to almost lay my head sideways on the top of the comb to align the sights. Adding the insert mitigated that somehow. The bolt handle is ambidextrous, or suppose to be. I wanted to switch it over to the left side of the bolt but I think Ruger locktited that hex nut into the bolt because there was no way it was coming loose. This I'll have figure out somehow. It just seems more user friendly to pull the bolt back with my left hand rather than reach over the top of the rifle, or to switch the rifle over to my left hand to pull the bolt back.
Out to the range. First I went to the pistol range to shoot it at 15 yards to see where it is on paper. It was pretty much on target. So I put it down and plinked with my RIA 9mm and my Ruger Single six for a while.
Then out to the rifle range.
I put a target out to the 50 yard line to see how the Ruger and I got along. I've not had a lot of experience shooting through an aperture sight but my 1st 6 rounds were all on paper, just a few inches left. Adjusting the rear sight is a breeze and after a couple of attempts I had the rifle pretty well centered in a nice cluster.
Then I switched to the 25 yard line and shot at an existing target to bring my POA up a little.
Then I took a shot at a pink golf ball about 25 yards away. On the third shot I sent it into the next county. That was cool.
The trigger is a little creepy, probably a quarter inch travel with a little let up and then some creep. But it broke cleanly with zero over travel. I would estimate that after the creep the weight was about 5-6 lbs.
Resting my cheek against the stock was like on an A2 stock. I could hear a metallic chink and the vibration was a bit painful to my cheek.
Didn't notice a whole lot of recoil. In fact I was pleasantly surprised to see that I was immediately back on target after each shot. I never lost sight of the orange sticker thru my sights so I didn't have to reacquire my target following each shot.
Only one hiccup when a case didn't fully eject. I really can't make a case for this in any way with only about 40 rounds total down range.
The rifle is heavy, about 7 lbs. Remove the barrel from the stock and discover that all the weight is in the stock, itself (about 5 lbs).
The muzzle is threaded in the event one would wish to put on a flash hider, muzzle brake, or (yippee) a suppressor. No, I have never been one to even think about such nonsense. Never felt I had a need or desire. But this rig is just screaming for a suppressor and I may have to oblige. For the cool factor. Just because. Why not? For all the same reasons I bought the damn rifle in the first place.
I'm sure I am forgetting something.
A few more pics.
A few range pics.
2 each new 50 and 100 yard ranges with shooting benches ( in red, white, and blue).
500 yard range
A world class shotgun range. The pellet sometimes rain down on the pistol range next to it. Ask me how I know this.
Archery
I love this range.
Out to the range. First I went to the pistol range to shoot it at 15 yards to see where it is on paper. It was pretty much on target. So I put it down and plinked with my RIA 9mm and my Ruger Single six for a while.
Then out to the rifle range.
I put a target out to the 50 yard line to see how the Ruger and I got along. I've not had a lot of experience shooting through an aperture sight but my 1st 6 rounds were all on paper, just a few inches left. Adjusting the rear sight is a breeze and after a couple of attempts I had the rifle pretty well centered in a nice cluster.
Then I switched to the 25 yard line and shot at an existing target to bring my POA up a little.
Then I took a shot at a pink golf ball about 25 yards away. On the third shot I sent it into the next county. That was cool.
The trigger is a little creepy, probably a quarter inch travel with a little let up and then some creep. But it broke cleanly with zero over travel. I would estimate that after the creep the weight was about 5-6 lbs.
Resting my cheek against the stock was like on an A2 stock. I could hear a metallic chink and the vibration was a bit painful to my cheek.
Didn't notice a whole lot of recoil. In fact I was pleasantly surprised to see that I was immediately back on target after each shot. I never lost sight of the orange sticker thru my sights so I didn't have to reacquire my target following each shot.
Only one hiccup when a case didn't fully eject. I really can't make a case for this in any way with only about 40 rounds total down range.
The rifle is heavy, about 7 lbs. Remove the barrel from the stock and discover that all the weight is in the stock, itself (about 5 lbs).
The muzzle is threaded in the event one would wish to put on a flash hider, muzzle brake, or (yippee) a suppressor. No, I have never been one to even think about such nonsense. Never felt I had a need or desire. But this rig is just screaming for a suppressor and I may have to oblige. For the cool factor. Just because. Why not? For all the same reasons I bought the damn rifle in the first place.
I'm sure I am forgetting something.
A few more pics.
A few range pics.
2 each new 50 and 100 yard ranges with shooting benches ( in red, white, and blue).
500 yard range
A world class shotgun range. The pellet sometimes rain down on the pistol range next to it. Ask me how I know this.
Archery
I love this range.
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armedwalleye
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I've got the standard model, and also the Charger, which I purchased during the pandemic. For folks still looking, keep in mind the 19100 is the 17 round mag version of the Carbine, but the 19101 is the 10 round mag version of the same gun, and may be more readily available. Similarly, the 29100 is the 17 round Charger and the 29101 is the 10 rounder. That tidbit helped me score. For those buying it to change out to the Glock magwell, it's not really going to matter, and for those running the SR mags, it's not going to matter much.
zaitcev
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It is as you said, Ruger PC Carbine heavier than a generic AR9. But after years of tinkering with those ARs, I just want a gun that works. I'm quite happy that many shooters agree and there's a robust aftermarket support for these guns.
marvin02
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I modified two full size M&P mags and two CZ P10-F mags to work with the SR9 magwell. The mags for both of these guns have a follower angle that is visibly the same as the SR9 mags. You have to cut the notch in the front of the magazine so that they lock in. They also required a bit of filing down where the corner of the mag hits the ejector when the mag is inserted. If you put the mag into the PCC you can see where it hits. The mods don't effect their use in my M&P or CZ. They all work fine in the PCC and last round hold open still works.
I may try to make a tool to punch the proper hole in the mags. I have been drilling and filing the opening and it not as neat as I would like.
There is a video on YouTube about modding the M&P mags. He only added the notch. The result worked but is ugly.
The PC Carbine is just fun to shoot. While testing the modded mags yesterday I also sighted in my Holosun HE510C-GR, which seems like it will be great on this gun. I'll find out when I shoot my next steel match with it.
I may try to make a tool to punch the proper hole in the mags. I have been drilling and filing the opening and it not as neat as I would like.
There is a video on YouTube about modding the M&P mags. He only added the notch. The result worked but is ugly.
The PC Carbine is just fun to shoot. While testing the modded mags yesterday I also sighted in my Holosun HE510C-GR, which seems like it will be great on this gun. I'll find out when I shoot my next steel match with it.
1KPerDay
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I got an aftermarket bolt handle and run it on the other side so I have easily accessed handles no matter who is shooting it. Reliability is 100%
marvin02
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I put two of the TandemKross Spartan handles on mine.
https://www.tandemkross.com/extended-charging-handle-ruger-pc-carbine
When reloading I use the one on the left, when I lock the bolt back I use the left one with my thumb and use my finger on the bolt lock. I just got used to locking the bolt back that way on my 10/22.
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