Thompson Renegade

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A friend gave me a nice .50 Thompson Renegade. My only black powder experience previously is with a modern centerline breech plugger with 209 Primers & Sabots that I hunt with. My club runs a great Black Powder Safety Course - took it a few years back. But I'm still pretty green with BP.

Today, I shot six .490 lead balls with patches under 90 grains of 2fg. THe first shot was DEAD center at 50 yards. I was pretty happy. I was cleaning the bore between shots with damp patches of Windex. And drying with a dry patch before loading my powder.

I shot two 370 gr Maxi-Balls....no patch. They were 2-3" off Bullseye as were most of the other balls. They really KICK. Using 90 grs for them, too.

Two of the balls were WAY off the Bullseye. Like 8-10". No idea why?

Lot's of fun & smoke. I shoot a lot of Milsurp but I can see why you guys like the BP. I'm the type that enjoys cleaning firearms so giving my barrel a soap & water bath wasn't bad.
 
My brother uses 120 gr ffg Goex under maxi-balls in his 54 Renegade. He has a tang ladder type peep sight, and shoots a pie plate size group @ 200 yards.
I was trying 50 gr ffg under 54 cal maxi-ball in my New Englander today, and shot over 12" group at 50 yards! Bullet holes were ragged too, like maybe the bullets were tumbling?
I don't think you or I were using a big enough charge to stabilize the bullet?
 
Round balls shoot better in most modern side lock replicas.My magic load is 60 gr. 2f Goex under a .490 round ball.If you like slugs or sabots,the inline is your game...of course there's nothing saying you can't have both!
 
Here's the Renegade and the target. Other than the two ball flyers.....I can't shoot much better! I was very impressed with the rifle's ability. I never knew that replica's with round balls were so good?
 

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you need to work up your load. I have a renegade(single trigger.. not a dbl set). I started out shooting patched round balls(using FFF powder). I started @ 60 gr.. shot a group of 3. swabed the bore. I'd go up 5 gr on the powder for the next group of 3 shots until I got my best grouping which for me was @75 grains. once I got past 75 gr my grouping got wider.
I did the same for the Hornady Great Plains bullets. My best grouping was @ 85gr and they out shot the round ball @ 100 yards.
I've shot maxi ball, maxi hunter and buffalo bullet but I never got the accuracy I wanted for hunting.
You should be able to try different grains of powder and find the best that works for you with the bullet or round ball you shoot
 
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