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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by woodsja, Jan 27, 2010.

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  1. woodsja

    woodsja Member

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    P.S. Why is it the FOURTH amendment in this.

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  2. John Parker

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    I don't get it...there isn't suppossed to be a comma there. It's always been "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
     
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    You'll notice there are 12 articles there. The ratified BOR we're all familiar with strikes the first two.

    And John Parker is correct. There was never a fourth comma in the second amendment.
     
  4. woodsja

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    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    versus

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people, to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


    The first says individual right to bear arms.

    I think the second says collective right to bear arms.


    Regardless of what it says though I feel we should always have some recourse if what we say to our government isn't heard.

    Edit: Ahh I see the 27th amendment was later adopted after the second in that list failed to gain adoption.
     
  5. mnrivrat

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    You perhaps are an academic ? With all due respect, I very much disagree .

    I don't think our individual rights hang on a comma . However , if you feel that the lack of the comma means individual rights, then we at least have arrived at the same conclusion, and that's what is important.
     
  6. woodsja

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    A sixer down, my logic's a bit flaky.

    I wholeheartedly agree with the concept of defense against atrocious action by secondary party be it government or individual.

    Armament against such action would be an expression of defense against atrocious action.
     
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    Velly intellesting!:D
     
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    Woodsja - or as this guy happened to put it :

    Thomas Jefferson

    Note the "as a last resort" . I do not advocate self defense against government as anything but that .
     
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