Thoughts on Rifle Slings...

What is your preferred type of sling?

  • I don't like slings!

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Single Point Sling

    Votes: 17 18.7%
  • Two Point Sling

    Votes: 60 65.9%
  • Three Point Sling

    Votes: 9 9.9%
  • Slings cost too much! Grumble...grumble.

    Votes: 4 4.4%

  • Total voters
    91
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What type(s) and brand(s) of sling do you prefer for your rifles (if any)? Personally I would not own a rifle without one. :)

Lets just go ahead and make this a poll for type...brands are way too complicated...
 
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I went 2 pt. because that is what I have the most experience with, and have scarcely used anything else. I would especially like to know if anyone uses a "Quick-Cuff" type of sling. :)
 
I like a two point because of the simplicity and functionality. It's easy to go from carrying the rifle with it to a hasty sling.
 
I view a sling as a shooting aid more than a carrying strap. Properly adjusted and used, a good shooting sling is an invaluable shooting aid. I have M1907 style shooting slings on my M1A and my Remington hunting rifle. Both of these rifles are rarely carried slung in the field. Rather, the slings allow for greater stability and accuracy at all ranges from field positions. I consider them as useful for this purpose as a good optic, possibly more so.

I took the simple nylon OD carrying strap that came with my Romanian AK and hooked it in a loop to a cord on the rear sling swivel of the M4-style collapsible stock on my AK as a one-point sling. It is simple and effective. From a carbine intended primarily for close range use, it is adequate, and I have come to prefer it.

So to answer the question--for rifles and carbines intended primarily for use within 100 yards or so, and therefore not likely to be called upon to take a shot from anything other than the unsupported offhand position, I prefer a simple single-point sling. For everything else, including any rifle that may be used in the field from any position from offhand to prone, I prefer the good old fashioned M1907 military shooting sling utilized as a functional shooting aid in the manner described by the late Col. Jeff Cooper.
 
I went 2 pt. because that is what I have the most experience with, and have scarcely used anything else. I would especially like to know if anyone uses a "Quick-Cuff" type of sling.

I haven't used the Quick Cuff sling so I'll reserve judgment on it specifically.

As a general comment, any sling that requires you to take your eyes off the game in order to assume a shooting position has no business on a hunting rifle. The hasty sling works very well and is easy to assume without thinking about it.
 
I voted 3 point sling. But after voting, I reconsidered. There is a really cool 2 point sling which you can loop coming off the front swivel which makes it more versatile I think.
 
I have slings on all my rifles. While they're handy for carrying, I use them more for steadying my aim. I find that I shoot MUCH better with a tight sling.
 
I tried the 3 point kool aid for a while. Felt like the rifle was a little too strapped to me. Webbing everywhere. Single points make me feel like I'm about to get smacked right in the boys every time I take a step.

Two-points mounted in various positions take the cake for every kind of long gun I own.
 
I tried the 3 point kool aid for a while. Felt like the rifle was a little too strapped to me. Webbing everywhere. Single points make me feel like I'm about to get smacked right in the boys every time I take a step.
That has been my experience as well. The single point made me afraid to run and 3 Pt. worked well but seemed unnecessarily complex. I use all of my slings as carrying straps as well as shooting aides. My chosen sling has been the "Super Sling 2" for a while now. :)
 
So to answer the question--for rifles and carbines intended primarily for use within 100 yards or so, and therefore not likely to be called upon to take a shot from anything other than the unsupported offhand position, I prefer a simple single-point sling. For everything else, including any rifle that may be used in the field from any position from offhand to prone, I prefer the good old fashioned M1907 military shooting sling utilized as a functional shooting aid in the manner described by the late Col. Jeff Cooper.

That is such a good answer that I am going to claim it too. I've used everything from the M1907 leather sling to Specter Gear 3-point, to Vickers VCAS, to Specter Gear MOUT and at the end of the day, the M1907 and a single point are hard to beat.

I'd like to take a look at the new Magpul sling that lets you switch between single point and two-point easily. That would give me the best of both worlds a lot better than a quick-adjust two-point.

Single points make me feel like I'm about to get smacked right in the boys every time I take a step.

The single point made me afraid to run and 3 Pt. worked well but seemed unnecessarily complex.

The idea behind a single-point sling is not that it is a carrying strap; but that it helps distribute the load of carrying the rifle at the ready over long periods of time. Letting the rifle hang on the sling should be an emergency/temporary thing, not a general habit or a part of your normal training and procedures. If you have trained where the rifle is always in your hands and never slung up; that is the type of training and procedure that works the best with a single point.

If your tactics include leaving the rifle dangling from the sling for any length of time or using the sling to carry the rifle, then a single point is probably not going to work well for you.

To give an example, the range I shoot on requires you control your muzzle during transitions to pistol. So a two point sling or a three point sling is a non-starter for pistol transitions since I will have to either:

1. Drag the rifle to my weak side with my weak arm, while simultaneously choking myself with the sling.

2. Let the rifle hang on the sling and have the muzzle pointed at the guy on my right as we move.

The single point is perfect because I can tuck the rifle under my weakside arm and transition to my weak side with no difficulty and if things got really sticky where I had to let go of the rifle, it won't hit the deck and generally, the muzzle will be pointed towards the deck.
 
Thanks for the replies...keep 'em coming. Looks like the classic 2 pt. is still the favorite.
 
I don't think I understand the difference between a two point and three point, but regardless, any type of sling like that (1, 2, 3 point) that allows you to keep the rifle at low ready while stalking/hunting is a BIG bonus feature in my book. In fact, I'm quite perturbed that "they" haven't started making my beloved turnbolt rifles with an attachment point for a single point sling. :mad:

Are you listening, manufacturers???

And let's not confuse 2-point carry straps with 2-point slings.
 
If you're rifle is flopping around that much...

You deserve to get hit in the "boys." At least one hand, and positive control, on the rifle at all times. Then your boys are safe.

There's no way I'm hiking 6 miles into the backcountry without a comfortable sling on my rifle.

Why? Is seven or eight pounds really that much of a burden?

The only time my rifle is slung when I am hunting is when it is too dark to shoot, or when I am dragging something out. For me, slinging a rifle is like throwing in the towel. It is an open admission that, for whatever reason, this hunt is over. Most of the rest of the time, the rifle is carried against my chest.

I shoot left-handed, so I find swinging from left to right, across my body, is fastest. My brother is right handed, and as he is my most frequent hunting partner, we have gotten in a habit. During the summers we walk these tracks near my grandpa's property for miles with rifles. The rifles vary. Sometimes we carry a .22 and a shotgun. Other times, we take our AKs, or SKSs. Lately I've become fond of my M1A and carry it pretty much everywhere I have to opportunity to do so. But in the past we've carried our hunting rifles as well. And all we do is walk these tracks for several miles shooting ground squirrels in the berms next to the tracks. We walk online, him on my left. Anything in the middle is first come first serve. Anything to the right, or anything that runs to the right, is mine, as it is easier for me to track in that direction. So on and so forth.

During these walks, we've worked out our own individual systems for carrying our rifles for miles on end without too much physical discomfort. The best way I have found is to keep it close to, but in front of, the body. Therefore, I carry my M1A and my hunting rifle both flat against my chest, muzzle to the right, away from my hunting partner. I touch my thumb and middle finger of my right (support) hand around the grip of the rifle with the forend nestled in crook of my elbow. The sling is pulled taught up front and pinched between my arm and the stock. The pinky of the support hand pulls in the sling just in front of the rear swivel. In this manner, both ends of the sling are tight and controlled, so there is no squeaking swivels. The rifle is held tight to the chest with the arm in the same position it would be in if it was broken and in a sling. The left (shooting) hand can then "hug" the chest, if necessary, to reduce fatigue on the support arm by simply grabbing the support arm elbow with the shooting hand and pulling both arms tighter to the body. Using this method, I've fond I can carry either my ~12 lbs loaded M1A or my ~9 pound loaded Rem 7mm Rem Mag pretty much all day without physical discomfort.

I've fond this position brings the rifle into action faster than when it is slung as well. When need, the support arm simply pops the forearm up as the firing hand takes control of the pistol grip. My dad carries his rifle slung safari style. He was the only one in our family that did this, and it earned him the reputation as the man to beat getting one's rifle on target fastest in the field. He's got a lot of years of practice on me carrying it in this method and he is indeed very fast, though he laments constantly about how much faster he was when he was young and woolly. But I get on target faster using my method that even he does.

This has gotten very long-winded, I realize. All I am saying is I see no reason to ever have an active rifle slung.
 
MT-

Sorry to interrupt your chest-beating with some common sense, but if you hike 6 miles in, you have to hike 6 miles out with meat, if you plan to shoot anything.:rolleyes:

And I sincerely doubt that hiking 6 miles into the Colorado backcountry resembles ground squirrel hunting along railroad tracks.

Like most people, I hunt upland birds without a sling. But a backcountry rifle hunt generally requires one to carry more than the gun and whatever fits in a few pockets.

I might sling the rifle, carry the rifle, or whatever suits the moment. I don't really care to stick my rifle in a pile of loose shale as I slide down a slope. And my sling swivels don't make noise. Hasn't anyone heard of oil?

All of that said, I keep it simple. A sling is something I use to steady the rifle for a quick offhand shot, and to allow me to toss the rifle on my back when I want my hands for something besides carrying a rifle. I've played with "Safari carry" and I will some more. It has its place.
 
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Evidently "Three Point Slings" are attached to an AR15 or similar rifle at exactly TWO points. Correct? :scrutiny:

I have one and like it, but I sure don't get why it's called a 3 point sling.
 
I tried the 3 point kool aid for a while. Felt like the rifle was a little too strapped to me. Webbing everywhere. Single points make me feel like I'm about to get smacked right in the boys every time I take a step.

Two-points mounted in various positions take the cake for every kind of long gun I own.

My thoughts exactly.
 
I admit, I am a sling freak. All of my m4gery carbines have single point. Hunting rifles, Beretta storm, WASR-10, Mosin Nagant, PSL. The only one I haven't put a sling on is my Winchester 1300, can't seem to find one that I really like. Any suggestions for a shotgun tactical sling?
 
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