Throw Away Guns

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I have a couple "throw away guns"

$100 phoenix hp22 which is a bargain and lifetime warranty. Wont be throwing this guy away anytime soon.

I had a hipoint that I traded for some ammo way back(didn't need it).. no questions asked warranty, great reliability and accuracy. Wish I had it back to leave in the glovebox of my car.

When I hear throw away gun all I think about is jennings but people have had great success with them too. If a $40 throw away gun comes my way I wouldnt turn my nose I would buy it and see how she shoots.
 
Good pocket guns (certainly not throw away): North American Arms Guardian .32 and Baby Desert Eagle .380. I am a big fan of these two because I hate carrying a holster and these two will just drop right into my pocket (especially the .32). I would hate to be on the other end of either one of them.
 
A friend of mine has a Phoenix Arms HP22. It's not unusual for it to jam on every single round in the magazine. It's also so amazingly inaccurate it approaches absurdity.

Another friend briefly owned a Bryco 9mm. It would only reliably fire the first round in the magazine. Then, it might jam on every round in the magazine. If you were lucky, it might function correctly for 3 rounds in a row.

the only thing I see about them that could be of interest is if you place one in every drawer in the house , you will have firearm at the ready wherever you are !
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Or, you could buy one "real" gun and put it in your pocket.

Now if thats the case , what caliber? .32 ,.22, I'd have to have to have a bigger caliber !
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.22 lr to minimize damage if it explodes.

Hi-Points are supposed to be fairly good for the price, though, and their warranty can't be beat.
 
The only thing I would consider is something like: PM, p-64, p-63, cz-82, p-83, Tokarev,.... It has be bee inexpensive and reliable. Some call them PG "throw aways".
 
Throw away to me are Charter, The Bull Lable pistols. Or my PF-9 not because it is cheap. It just didn't cost much. And can be replaced in a flash if I had to use it and the police have it for inspection.

Hummm idiot me needs some Charter's and Bull guns for HD! Why let the police take my nice gun or guns for investigation purposes if involved in a HD event.

Beats head on desk!!!!!
 
If you used a different gun than the one you used for self defense, you will get in a heap of trouble when ballistics don't match up.
 
Let me ask you another question. Which would you rather have locked up and neglected in a police property room for several years, your custom built $2000+ 1911 or a $100 "throw away" gun?

As pathetic as the lowly 9mm is, it has killed more people than your beloved 45 has ever though of.
 
Just curious , about what people see in these guns, you guys know what im talking about , little Davis guns that fit in the palm of your hand , derringers , Ive never been comfortable with them , the only thing I see about them that could be of interest is if you place one in every drawer in the house , you will have firearm at the ready wherever you are !

SOME PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF $. I STARTED MY COLLECTION ON CHEAP GUNS..YEARS AGO
 
Yes. But take out the combat use and just look at LE. Outside the US the 45 has seen some but not a lot of use in LE. It is vastly outnumbered by the 9. Even in US LE How long did Glock have a large share of the LE market before they started making other calibers
 
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if that was a 9 or 22 he'd be alive today..
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And there you have it, folks. No one has ever died from a head wound caused by either a 9mm or 22LR bullet... (of course, we also know that no one has survived being shot with a .45, either right?)
 
Not to disagree being a new member and all, but I have a Phoenix hp22 and although it or I could be a little more accurate it is very dependable and has never had a problem. I like its looks as well. I carry usually when mowing for when the snakes are out or just plinking on my own backyard range.

On the Derringer, I think that is just a kind of personal choice and I have a new Cobra 9mm with a lifetime warranty as well, and last night I seen another that has caught my eye. It is a brand new .22mag and the finish on the gun is Antique, it looks like something from the 1800's. But that is what I look for in a handgun, rare looks and age. That would explain my H&R 949. The look and feel is the one I like best out of any handgun I have felt. The finish is ugly and that is why I bought it lol.

Now, the Bryco, I had a Model 59 9mm. Everything you said about it is so true. I liked its looks and the age (72) but the jamming was crazy. I still want a J-22 and have had a Raven MP25 for probably 20 years. It is very accurate when used for the distance it was designed for.

With all of what I posted I dont aim to make any enemies, just kind of surprised myself that I would have something to add before I asked too many questions. And one more thought, my High Point 45 can make anyone think they are a good shot. A wonderful price and warranty. I will say this, I will be checking to see if the Chiappa 1911-22's are worth the price asked. I like the black one...Ok, I will shut up.
 
A friend of mine has a Phoenix Arms HP22. It's not unusual for it to jam on every single round in the magazine. It's also so amazingly inaccurate it approaches absurdity.
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As far as reliable I get a jam every 50 or so rounds its a rimfire after all(my buckmark and 22a do it too).

Accuracy is what you would expect from a 3" barrel but a good shooter should have no problem hitting inside a 5" ring at 25yds..

something tells me you are exaggerating the jams every round but if not he simply has a dud or a bad mag which can happen to $800 guns too.

Name a better .22 plinker for $100 new.

Or, you could buy one "real" gun and put it in your pocket
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Not everyone is going to carry a gun hanging around the house. Not everyone wears pants around the house much less carry a gun around. I keep a gun loaded gun hidden within 3 seconds from any point in my house.
 
Ok I looked

The Chiappa 1911-22 is a great looking gun, but only a one year warranty and I kind of like getting the gun cheap or having a lifetime. Personal protection is hard to put a price on for sure, but once you have that covered, for me it is about what I like in the looks and feel of a firearm. I would buy one even if it did not function if I liked the looks and it had a little history behind it. It became a hobby for me with the next purchase after PD was covered. Not trying to step on anyones toes just offering my opinion, I have not tried to offer any facts as I am only able to comment on my own experience and I am positive 99 percent of this forum knows more than I do.
 
This assumes that you are too lazy to carry, right?

A 1lb pocket 9mm and pants pocket holster is just too much for you to lug around?
 
Unfortunately, some of these cheap guns may not work when you do need them

Instead of "throw away" maybe should be "thrown at" is a better term, because when you need them and they dont fire, you may need to throw them at the threat


To me....... if I was going on a rafting trip or a camping trip (non bear country) where the gun could get wet or lost, I would choose a CZ82 or a Hi Point

I would lube a bit heavy and clean again at the campsite after the trip.

If you lose it it will set you back less than $200 or less, not something you "want" but not going to break you if it did.

BOTH are dependable, Both would get the job done.

I wouldnt even bother with the crap guns.....

Cheap or expensive...... my guns MUST go bang.

A guy with a Jennings shot next to me at my CCW qualifications, his gun literally jammed every 3-4 rounds. The rangemaster was spending half of his time unjamming this dudes gun. That gun would have been sold or tucked in the attic never to see the light of day again.

My buddy in Ohio has a Lorcin...... it jammed the first time he shot it................

At this point my pistols are made by SIG and Kahr, too expensive to get beat up (IMHO).......... I need to get the commonly known as "truck gun" as well. Probably a CZ82.

Save your life.... dont waste your money on the "fall-apart" guns.... that ONE time that you REALLY need it.........

Its not gonna be there.
 
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A 1lb pocket 9mm and pants pocket holster is just too much for you to lug around?
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Registar, really you should not "assume" anything. I was just mentioning my thoughts on my own pieces, I would have no problem toting the 9mm derringer around with or without holster if it was my only choice. However it is not my only choice and I bought it for a display I have that is based on Liberty and freedoms that I have created out of all antique items bought at various auctions. Actually the 9mm would be great with shot shell when cutting the grass. In my area snakes are just as common as birds and I don't really want to run across one on my mower. It is all about likes and dislikes. I dont have one riffle or shotgun as I dont need one and I dont hunt, but I have the poor mans version of the Judge and it is also a heavy gun but with the right shot and good aim it will get the job done against a coyote if it was the only thing I had to drive it away while I run..lol
 
Um, You do know about the problem with shot and rifling, lets just say doughnut, with where you are aiming as the hole...

16 ounces is assuming A LOT
a keltec P11 is 14+6 oz. for a total loaded weight of 20 ounces, and it is one of the lightest 9mm made, so the pound in the pocket, hi point 29oz. and most guns fall in between.

Pound in the pocket is a great place to aim, but hard to achieve.
 
I've got a P-11 and I think it's too heavy for pocket carry but that's me. IWB works just fine, though. KT's are another one that some gun snobs consider "throw-aways." Mine has been reliable for the one year+ that I've owned it.
 
@medwheeler , so your telling me when you shoot (at siluettes) you aim for the head? Man you must be one hell of a good shooter , I was trained "center mass" thats what I go for , and yes if a 9 or 22 were to hit center mass , you'll likely go down , but there is alot better chance especially with the 9 it goes right through you , possibly not hitting vital , and the 22 can kill just as easy , but not as likely as a 45 ,

Sure these toy or novelty guns can kill and they do every year , usually to there owners who are playing with it like a toy!
 
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