Times Square non-bomber had an EVIL gun!

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Did you see this article in the NYT about the guy who tried to set off the car bomb in New York? He had bought a GUN! How can we halt crime and terrorism if we can't stop people who haven't yet committed any crimes from buying guns, especially EVIL-looking guns with EVIL sounding names! And, horror of horrors, this gun shoots pistol rounds, but since it's a rifle, no pistol permit was required, even though the gun has a pistol grip, and it will shoot a bullet EVERY time the trigger is pulled! It even has an EVIL-sounding name, "Kel-Tec Sub Rifle." And it has plastic on it, and it looks "military."

Here's the link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/06/nyregion/06gun.html

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But with its folding stock, hand grip and appetite for pistol ammunition and not rifle ammunition, the Kel-Tec was about as close as one could get to a pistol that is not technically one.
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That is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever read. It is very poorly worded. The sad thing is, this was written in the New York Times, once considered to be one of the best newspapers in the world.
 
It was unclear what attracted Mr. Shahzad to that particular gun. “Why not just get a pistol if somebody wants a handgun round?” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment on the case

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kel-tec sub2000 are OUTSTANDING carbines. The Return on Investment comes no higher. They are highly utilitarian, damn near bulletproof and so accurate it's ridiculous.

You won't have to look far to find a sub2000 fan.

You WILL have to look far to find them in stock, because they sell like flapjacks

At least he didn't choose an ar-15 or ak47. The article doesn't know WHAT to think of a folding carbine, lol. Is it evil ? Gawrsh i just don't know!
 
If you don't know guns, you have zero business writing an article about it, SOOOOOOO out of context, SOOOOOOO twisted and is only doing one thing, pushing an agenda
 
Little does anyone know, especially the mass media, that a pistol round firing rifle is not really that big of a deal.
 
The NYT is blind to the irony that the society it has helped create is helping to destroy it. The rag has become such a self-parody of ineptitude that it will soon have to switch to a 'Graphic' format as none of it's writers will be literate enough to compose a sentance.
 
And look at that. Another Evil-looking gun that hurt no one. No mention of the fact that he was on a no fly list and was still able to board a plane and almost leave the country. Maybe they have should have spent less time gawking at the carbine and moved to track him down quicker.
 
Of the gun, he said, “It may well have been an indicator of putting something catastrophic in motion.”

WHAT? Really?
 
To join the chorus of complaints...

THE NAME IS RIGHT THERE! IN THEIR LINK! How do they get that wrong?

It's funny, though--the quality actually improves about halfway through. I wonder if the two authors didn't write different parts of the text (I don't know how the newspaper business works). Note in particular that they eventually call it the SUB 2000, correctly (modulo punctuation). The technical details late in the article are basically fine, though they seem to be pushing a particular view of the weapon with their reference to the TEC-9 and its intimidating appearance.
 
Did everyone read the entire article, or did you stop halfway through to comment? Read it again all the way through. It started a little crazy but overall I have seen worse articles in the paper.
 
A newspaper that has reduced its credibility to that of the "National Enquirer"? If they keep up reporting like this, the savvy readers are sure to catch one. Perhaps they have already lost the inteligent readers to internet.............
 
Hee Hee

with multiple extra clips
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That's the only true mistake I saw. I imagine the reporters to more or less be the little yip yip aliens from sesame street discovering this thing.

"Hmmmmm... What? What? What? What? What?"

"Book.... book. Gun book."

"Kel.....tec. Kel-tec. Yip."

"Yip yip yip yip yip yip yip."

"Fol...-ding. stock? What? What?"

"Uh-huh, Uh-huh."

For those that may not get what I mean, one example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTc3PsW5ghQ
 
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/sub2000.htm

Oh he bought a gun. Ok he passed background checks, but even if he didn't and couldn't own a gun. HE MADE A BOMB
HE didnt need a background check to get one of those!

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, in his testimony on Wednesday before the Senate committee, urged that suspects on terrorism watch lists be blocked from buying guns and explosives
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ah he didnt buy explosives. Just some gas and propane, which I can buy at walmart. Maybe we should ban these.

. But all along he possessed a weapon that could have easily done extreme damage, one rapidly fired round at a time.
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lol his car is more of a weapon. He coulda rammed at 55mph on the side walk and murder just as many. I love the liberal slants

it has that military look, but all it really is a really big handgun.”
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ah it is a really big handgun, I guess the rounds fire faster. Or the bullets are bigger because its a rifle

Two American flags fly in front of the gun store.
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whats this? anti American? why even say this in your article?
It is fearsome looking, a carbine hybrid of a pistol and a long gun with a mouthful of a name: the Kel-Tec Sub Rifle 2000. Mr. Shahzad bought it, new, in March for about $400. It was found in the Isuzu Trooper that he drove to Kennedy International Airport on Monday, loaded, with multiple extra clips.
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good lord... it is a fearsome looking, a carbine hybrid of a pistol and a long gun with mouthful of a name: the kel-tec sub rifle 2000. oh my fearsome? what gun isnt to a liberal? they complain about a bolt action! oh my fearsome because it folds and sub compack? you know what? I watch cops crims saw guns down, I saw a ruger 10/22 it was hacked short 10inch barrel and no stock. thats a pistol caliber to. 22lr in pistols! wow what is he going to do with pistol rounds? it isnt like "assault rifle rounds" eh

Because the Kel-Tec Sub Rifle 2000 is classified as a rifle, it required no permit, as pistols do in Connecticut. But with its folding stock, hand grip and appetite for pistol ammunition and not rifle ammunition, the Kel-Tec was about as close as one could get to a pistol that is not technically one
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oh so he choice to use a pistol round so? ak47 can have fold stock. The rounds are bigger.

I hate this article
 
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This article is one of the first I've seen in several years in the Times that is so pointedly one sided.

They've had many gun and hunting articles that have been very fair and even handed. I know because I've posted them here, and in the hunting section.

This was obviously a hatchet job at someones request. It's like those poll questions you get looking for donations from some group with an agenda. There's no way the questions are fair, some for the conclusions in this article.

The Times should be ashamed of themselves for this one, sorry to say.
 
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