Tinfoil hat time - "Don't send it to a gunsmith 'cause..."

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For that matter, how long do RFID chips used for inventory control purposes last?
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RFID Chips last as long as the connections inside of them stay solid. as long as they arent corroded or damaged, they will last indefinitely.

RFID Doesn't use batteries, they draw power form the Radio Waves that make them work, range depends on the device reading them, you can build a device that will read and save all of the RFID info you come into range with, then download it onto your computer. but don't ask me to tell you how to do it, if you had the stuff to make one you'd find the info for yourself ;)

I'm not sure if the OP's friend really believes that or if it is a joke gone misunderstood, but RFID tagging is a very real part of at least americas near future, if you don't at least understand that then you need to check your pulse, you may be an anti...

goodness people read Pop Sci, Wired, Discover, ad nasuem... this stuff hasn't just poped out of the woodworks, it's been around for several years now.
 
anyway would those RFID chips, or any other kind of computer chip even survive the recoil and G forces from firing?

i think not...

then if your still paraniod you could gun a high gauss magnet over any "secretly computer chipped" area
ever get a magnet close to a Tv or computer? its not cool:evil:

i may just "accidently" drop any computer tagged firearm in water... oops:rolleyes:
 
Don't go to the proctologist. They use the same chip.
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Is that what that is (squirms uncomfortably)?

For the OP, I love shooting, guns, and the most company I find around those things, but gun owners have to be some the most paranoid people on the planet. Perhaps for good reason, perhaps not, but dang.... :rolleyes:
 
Just tell your buddy to buy himself a nice big magnet if he is so worried, unless I am mistaken, that would definetly destroy an RFID tag or any other kind of small chip.
 
:D Tell your friend to send his guns to me for work because I only pretend to put the chips in.
SSHHH. the Govt. will never know. :neener:
 
[tinfoilhat]why would they need an RFID chip in my gun? They already put one in me at birth.[/tinfoilhat]
 
Not that I don a tinfoil hat, but I don't think we have full knowledge of what technology Uncle Sam has under wraps. The only reason people didn't give Jules Verne that title in his day because his material was science "fiction" and all of his visions are now reality. Anybody 100 years ago that seriously purported the idea of practically every person that lives in America having their own personal cellular phone and/or a personal computer capable of performing billions of calculations per second would DEFINITELY have been given the tinfoil label.

I do not underestimate those who desire to rule over me. I consider myself to be a fairly rational human being, but Americans, right or wrong, have proven that if someone says it can't be done, we do it.

In this particular case, I would say the guy in question is a bit off his rocker. I just examine sources and weigh evidence.

Okay, I'm going to read the rest of this thread now :)
 
Well, he won't install a chip, but if it's a firearm without a paper trail, it will be logged into his inventory control if he keeps it past 24 hours. It then has a paper trail, just like a new gun sold at a gun shop. That's what I've been told anyway.
 
OMGWFTBBQ- We need some of those Faraday Cages here in Florida! All those snowbirds did not take their Faradays home with them!!!
 
Government and efficiency go together much like oil and water.

PARTICULARLY when it comes to anything to do with computer systems.

For this absurdity to work would need every FFL and every purchaser of machining equipment AND every hobbyist to be part of this conspiracy AND NOT spill the beans on oh say THR........

Each participant in addition to keeping the secret to the grave would also have to receive a secure supply of the tags, list all the tags, return the results to the "agency" with a 100% efficiency.

Then every tracking chip would have to be immune to the G-forces generated by the recoil every time you fired your toy of choice.

In addition, for non polymer firearms, the tags would have to be able to circumvent the laws of physics and work from inside a metal Faraday cage.

Then there would have to be a "no sparrow will fall" ubiquitous monitoring and capture unit every 10 feet to capture and track the signal.

Each monitor and capture unit would need to be capable of discriminating "evil" RFID's from the 100,000 others that pass by it from every other piece of merchandise with a tag.

Each capture and track unit would need connectivity to a back end aggregator to pass it's info to before being pushed to a central database server.

The database engine and environment would need to store the resultant data for a minimum of 35 days (so the monthly full backups would capture the records) and more likely 1 year before moving to offline storage. Resulting in (if your lucky) high Terabytes of data to mine. Oh and all to NIST/FISMA requirements.

The headcount additions for maintenance of the capture stations alone would be impossible to hide never mind the budget costs to build, run and hide this behemoth.

Basically the friend is either on too many drugs or not enough
 
Recoil isn't a problem for passive RFID tags. They have only two parts, neither of which is recoil sensitive, and both of which are usually bedded in some sort of medium regardless.

However, here's where it falls apart for me. Even poly guns are radio opaque. Let's see an RFID system pick it up from inside there. Not to mention the interference from the actual metal skeleton and other parts.

I don't see this being viable with current tech.
 
Hmmmmm, I wonder if it's worth all those taxes dollars that it would cost just to keep track of where I go with a gun? It'd be cheaper if they just asked me....... :D
 
One more time: simply remove the RFID chip and throw it away. That's all you have to do. It isn't hard.

Good grief.
 
I've got a buddy that goes to Hudsons salvage store,buys cart loads of various products with rfids. He then removes the rfids, puts them in a bag and carries them in & out of walmart,target, etc just to mess with their tracking system. Everybody needs a hobby,lol
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Whew doggies - this thread has a lot of gems that cumulatively has me laughing out loud, but that tops them all - awesome! :)
 
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