tips on burying guns and ammo wanted.

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cajun47

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remembers katrina.

i have way more guns and ammo than i'll ever need. no use having all that extra stuff laying around the house waiting to get taken.

i was thinking of getting 6" pvc pipe and use pcv cement to seal the caps on. i would put large bags of desiccant in there.
 
I did the exact same thing during the Clinton administration and ended up ruining a MAK 90 with ammo. I sealed the PVC and even coated the seals with silicon sealant. I placed dessicant in the tube and still got water in it.
There are probably better containers to do this but I am unaware of any.
 
whats the point? Sell them if you dont want them around. or do a search this has been "covered" a lot.
 
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There was just a thread on this a week or so ago, the title having something to do with doing a little Spring planting. Try a search with those words and see what you can find.
 
If you're worried about a flood, BURYING them is a really bad idea ;-) I remember down in LA the water table is about a foot below the surface, sometimes over the surface. Nothing buried in the low parishes will last long.

For areas with mountains and dry country, SOP is to break the firearm down, use a reasonably heavy storage grease to cover the parts, pack them separate from the stock and seal the entire affair inside a PVC pipe. Then bury the pipe. Again this will not work in moist ground. I'm not sure anything will. It has to be well drained or bone dry country, away from any washes or creeks. The tube needs to be sealed and you CANNOT simply throw the oiled firearm in there and bury it. That's the mistake many people make. You MUST break it down and cover (not just coat) every metal part with heavy grease, then seal these off separate. Any metal left exposed to the air--even inside a sealed tube, will likely corrode.
 
If your getting water inside of PVC pipe then either you are not assembling it properly or it already has moisture in it when assembled.

My job involves a lot of underground construction and we put in a lot of water mains and water pipe. Some of it is glued PVC at up to 200 psi with no leaks. If you had a sealed container under ten feet of water you would only have a little over 4 psi of pressure trying to get into that container.
 
If your getting water inside of PVC pipe then either you are not assembling it properly or it already has moisture in it when assembled.

one word condensation
 
you very much can get water inside a pvc pipe if you do not glue the caps on or screw down firmly the plugs.

The best way to make a time capsule would to be GLUE, and well, the caps on the ends of the pipe, and cut them open later. also dunk the rifle in grease or cosmoline.
 
Vacuum seal them then put them in something else that would also be sealed.

I was about to mention this. I wouldn't recommend the old trick of sucking the air out with a straw, though! Don't just use a Ziploc or something like that; actually seal the bag with a lighter or whatever the proper tool is.

Instead of using regular glue on the endcaps, try model cement: it actually chemically melts the plastic and thus causes the endcaps and the pipe to fuse with each other. You might also consider wrapping the PVC tube itself in a plastic bag.

This would actually make for an interesting experiment if someone had some damaged or worthless guns, property, and the inclination. It may be worth doing some research to find out what people have done over the course of the century.

I don't think that burying them is your best bet, though. If your guns are hidden to such an extent that they're willing to break out the x-ray gear, metal detectors, and whatever else (is there such a thing as a gun-sniffing dog?), you're probably already in a situation where a gun isn't going to help much.

Of course, I could be completely misunderstanding you. If you're saying that you'd like to try planting a [insert reader's choice of detested firearm here] in properly fertilized soil in the hopes of reaping a P7M7, StG44, or Glock 18 then it may be worth a shot!
 
Instead of using regular glue on the endcaps, try model cement: it actually chemically melts the plastic and thus causes the endcaps and the pipe to fuse with each other. You might also consider wrapping the PVC tube itself in a plastic bag.


That's exactly what regular pvc cement does. No use spending fifty dollars buying forty tubes of model cement to seal the pipe. just remember to use etching/cleaning primer.


I don't think that burying them is your best bet, though. If your guns are hidden to such an extent that they're willing to break out the x-ray gear, metal detectors, and whatever else (is there such a thing as a gun-sniffing dog?), you're probably already in a situation where a gun isn't going to help much.


hah. very true.
 
worked as a plumber in north tx. for a while. Gotta be sure to use a good primer and a good pvc cement that is rated for the 6" pipe. also helps if the edges are filed to allow as much glue on the pipe. this should melt or bond the plastics together. as for condensation haven't had to deal with trying to keep it out we just made sure it would stay in. not sure about burying guns, i'm sure there is a good way to do it. it may just take something better than pvc. i'd like to have a whole shelter underground but that is out of my price range for now.
 
It always seems to pop up on these threads, but I haven't seen it yet. So, I'll do the honors........



"If you think it's time to bury your firearms......it's time to dig them up..."

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