Titewad for 9mm luger?

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i was on hodgdon's site looking around and was goofing off messing with numbers and all, and i found they have load info for using titewad (yes, titewad, the shotgun powder) for 9mm luger..

has anyone tried this? or would it be a really bad idea?

i ask because i cant find any powder for pistol ammo anywere around me, and my local shop, last i checked had 4 1 pound containers for just under $17 a piece

if there is load data, then i assume it can be done, but my questions is, SHOULD it be done. if powder was abundant i would be happy to pay for something better fit. but its this or i keep waiting....


there is a .5 grain varients from starting load to max load, i care nothing for hitting max load, i want my powder to stretch and to be as safe as possible.

i know it burns really fast. but the data is there. so..... if i weigh and check each and every round (slow i know, but if i just get 100-200 rounds done in a week or two im happy) it would be shot out of a glock 26, some research suggests a powder like this, might give trouble cycling the action on a firearm... any thoughts on this?
 
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I have some powder that is so fast I only use it in a bolt action rifle where it is safe. In a autoloader handgun there is .2 gn difference between not cycling the slide & lose primer pockets in my 9mm. I'd say be careful if your going to use it & see if it will work under the starting load.
 
i will do more research on it, i dont wanna buy it until i know, it will be a while before i get into reloading shotshell so if i buy it and cant use it, it will sit for a long while.
 
Leave my shotgun powder ALONE!!!!!!!
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i was on hodgdon's site looking around and was goofing off messing with numbers and all, and i found they have load info for using titewad (yes, titewad, the shotgun powder) for 9mm luger..
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Shotgun powders crossover well with some pistol cartridges. Actually some are pretty universal powders.

I like Red Dot Pretty well as far as shotgun powders go. It produces good velocity in 9mm without the higher pressure that can be expected from most fast powders. It also go's a long way (over 1600 rounds per pound) and meters well for me. WST is another one, but lack of load data I would caution one to start low. I loaded a few rounds successfully with it. Get the load right and you have an accurate load that burns real clean. 700x and Clays are popular crossovers as well. (sure I left some out)

In the same since Pistol Powders cross over for shotgun too. What usually works best for one thing may fill a particular niche in another.
 
maybe i will get a pound just to get it before its gone, and if i sit on it for a while then its not even $20 bucks im out anyway. at this point i still wont use it for 9mm. not unless i hear enough to make me comfortable.
 
Just be extra careful with it. I'd start below or at minimum & work down to see the smallest charge that will cycle your slide & go from there. 9mm is a tough chamber in a full frame handgun. You will ruin brass before blowing it up. It may work great.
 
last i checked had 4 1 pound containers for just under $17 a piece
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Tight Wad is sold in 14oz containers so you are less than a lb. at $17 but its still under $20/lb at $17. It is a very fast powder so loads are very light at 3.5grs maximum for a 124gr lead round nose, the only bullet data is listed for. The good thing is that even at less than 1 lb of powder that 14 oz will load over 1,800 rounds using 124gr LRN bullets. The down side is that the powder has almost no flexibility in handgun application. Small charges are often hard to meter out consistently and a double charge may be difficult to see.

If you can live with the its limitations of bullet choice and modest velocities why not give it a try, after all $17 is a small investment to loose if you don't like it.
 
Be extra careful! It is a "fluffy" powder and doesn't meter well at all in my experience... you may have to hand weigh each charge if you are using a progressive.
 
I use Titewad for my light 12 gauge reloads in a progressive press. It flows through the powder bushing just fine and is very consistent

I'll say it again - LEAVE MY SHOTGUN POWDER ALONE! :neener:
 
I worked up a Titewad load for .45acp. See my previous posts.

As others have said, start below minimums and work up from there. In my case, the difference in felt recoil between 4 grs and 4.4 grs was huge. You have to work in small increments.
 
Be very careful, and work up in .1 grain increments. It is very fast and as you get near the top pressure could spike. They may not show data for it for a reason.
 
start below minimum?

this is an honest question. doesnt that raise the chances of getting a bullet lodged on the barrel? its a small gun and so i assume the short barrel helps prevent that.
 
oneounce, find me some good powder for 9mm and its all yours! lol.
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If you like 1# jugs, they're are plenty out there that will work for 9mm. I still have some Bullseye, 231, Universal Clays Small ammo store in an even smaller town has lots of various powders, just all in 1#ers. I'm on the list for 8# jugs as I use a lot for shotgun
 
The only thing I have heard from someone who actually tried it was that it was very dirty. Again, this is hearsay. I did not witness it and have not tried Titwad. Fortunately, I have plenty of pistol powder. I have always kept a good inventory of reloading stuff so this current shortage has had no affect on my reloading (as long as it ends within a year or so).
 
onceounce, i just noticed your in my state. lol, i cant find any pistol powder around me here in lakeland. i still have a few places to call im sure, i dont know all the shops that sell reloading stuff. but so far no go, i checked in brandon as well, still nothing.

im ok with one pound.
 
Most powders should go way under starting load without sticking a bullet. It will stop cycling the slide way before it sticks a bullet. But stuck bullets should still be something that you watch out for when finding a load.
 
I have a couple pounds of Titewad I bought by mistake. Is it usable with cast bullets? I have handguns covering the spectrum from .380 to .45 with the magnums included.
 
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Most powders should go way under starting load without sticking a bullet. It will stop cycling the slide way before it sticks a bullet. But stuck bullets should still be something that you watch out for when finding a load.
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I would have to agree, while stressing "Most", "should", and "still be something that you watch out for"

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=523172

And I will say again, it is very fast, and if you are working up a load in a high pressure caliber with no data, be very careful as you work up.
 
You have been given some good advice. If you decide to try it, I would work down. Lots of those fast powders can be worked down from minimum charge. I load Titegroup 1 full grain below recommend min charge for 180gr .40s&w as my IDPA load. I had to drop my recoil spring down to 13lb, but it shoots like a dream!

I know a lot of guys are playing with Alliant E3. It's right up there with Titewad. Personally I would try and stay with powders listed here from #10 to #36. Some will be much better than others, but all should work better than Titewad.

http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html
 
Leave my shotgun powder ALONE!!!!!!!
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When the pistol shooters are finished there won't be any shotgun powder, anywhere. I bought 8 lbs of it myself and I might by anther 8 when I find it.

It's better than pistol powder. ;)
 
its titewad, not titegroup, im sure. otherwise i would have got all 4 pounds on the spot. lol.

im glad to hear i can work down from minimum. and with these loads that one can should last a long time. i will keep searching, eventually i will find someone that does, or has, used it for 9mm
 
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