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To all NY'kers with an AR/M-4
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the magazine, clip, terminology word game wont work either, since the law states something to the effect of "any and all ammunition feeding devices".
I like that you pointed out that difference with the internal magazine, fed by en blocs. lots of NY'ers seem confused, and some people almost seem scared to "push the envelope", because the stupid state worded the law vaguely.
I like that you pointed out that difference with the internal magazine, fed by en blocs. lots of NY'ers seem confused, and some people almost seem scared to "push the envelope", because the stupid state worded the law vaguely.
Snowblind
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I don't see how this would work in NY at all...
As far as I know, the AR-15 is banned by model, as well as all derivatives. You also can't link more than 10 rounds together. In fact, belts would likely be considered illegal due to the wording of the law, since any ammunition feeding device "that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition" is banned. You can keep adding links to a belt all day long; in my mind, that makes it 'readily converted to accept' more than 10 rounds. Or so the prosecution will say.
They went to great lengths to word the law so that any versions of the AR-15 and all comparable models are specifically banned. And then on top of that any AR-type features are banned. If it resembles the AR-15 it's probably banned. If its name resembles AR-15 it's probably banned. Soon if it comes in black it will be banned.
As far as I know, the AR-15 is banned by model, as well as all derivatives. You also can't link more than 10 rounds together. In fact, belts would likely be considered illegal due to the wording of the law, since any ammunition feeding device "that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition" is banned. You can keep adding links to a belt all day long; in my mind, that makes it 'readily converted to accept' more than 10 rounds. Or so the prosecution will say.
They went to great lengths to word the law so that any versions of the AR-15 and all comparable models are specifically banned. And then on top of that any AR-type features are banned. If it resembles the AR-15 it's probably banned. If its name resembles AR-15 it's probably banned. Soon if it comes in black it will be banned.
scaatylobo
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@ Snowblind
The company that got this AR cleared,did so by giving a few copies to the state police and asking to show why they were illegal,they were approved.
The law reads that ANY rifle that is semi auto AND has a detachable magazine = this rifle has not detachable mag !!.
So far,so good.
The company that got this AR cleared,did so by giving a few copies to the state police and asking to show why they were illegal,they were approved.
The law reads that ANY rifle that is semi auto AND has a detachable magazine = this rifle has not detachable mag !!.
So far,so good.
telomerase
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pseudonymity
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There are no names in the law at all, just features. Rifles that can accept a detachable mag can have no listed features (pistol grips, muzzle 'breaks', etc).
There is no definition regarding to what degree a rifle needs to be altered to not accept a detachable mag, and the law does not give authority to any state agency to make a determination either, so somebody will have to suffer in court before we know the guidelines.
My opinion is that something like a Prince50 mag lock on an AR installed with the solid spacer instead of the spring would pass as legal, but opinions are all anybody in NY has on some of these poorly defined laws.
toivo
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NY mag limit is 10, but only 7 rounds can be loaded, except on a range. Also, the Garand doesn't have a detachable magazine -- it has a fixed magazine. Garands are legal -- this is direct from the state police hotline.
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