To stop Hillary, draft Condi...

[Sean Smith]

I almost want Dr. Rice to run just so I can watch the Democratic Party have an brain hemmorage trying to run a candidate (probably an old white dude) against a black woman. She'd take a big bite out of the only demographics that really keep the Democratic Party alive: blacks and single women. We'd also find out once and for all how racist the white Republican base really is (or isn't).

The country would go completely bat-excrement. I'll bring the popcorn.

 

[Wildalaska]

Right now, there is no one better qualified that Rice to be our next president, despite any quibble one may have with some of her views (I for one dont like her anti choice views but hey, one cant have it all)

Wildcondiin08Alaska

 

[mtnbkr]

She'd take a big bite out of the only demographics that really keep the Democratic Party alive: blacks and single women.

Nope. That demographic would write her off as a female uncle tom and a tool of "the man". She's too well spoken and got where she is through hard work.

Chris

 

[R.H. Lee]

She'd take a big bite out of the only demographics that really keep the Democratic Party alive: blacks and single women.

The left will villify her the way they've done to Clarence Thomas. They would eat their young if it'd serve their purpose.

 

[Dave R]

So then the quesiton becomes--could she energize the Republican base?

This Independent would certainly vote for her. Particularly if the alternative was Billary.

 

[R.H. Lee]

Nobody knows what Rice's principles are yet. Is she a big central bureacracy globalist like Bush? Or is she more of an individual libertarian? Does she support crap like amnesty for illegals, lowest-common-denominator sellouts like "No Child Left Behind", big government transfers of wealth to corporations like prescription medicare drugs and privitization of social security? Right now, she's gotta be an administration lapdog; who knows what she really thinks?

 

[Guy B. Meredith]

Uh, the opposite of "no child left behind" is the lowest common denominator--just pass them through and get them out so their feellings aren't hurt. "Whaddaya mean my kid doesn't qualify for that job?!!"

I will be watching to see how Dr. Rice does. I do believe she is shamelessly honest and plain spoken despite Dem spins.

Have you ever noticed that the champions of the minorities are willing to help them struggle, but if the minority decides to stop struggling and get somewhere they are listed as traitors to their race or whatever and sellouts to the Power Structure. The Pacifica Radio Liberals in particular don't give a c**p about minorities unless they agree to suffer.

 

[Brett Bellmore]

No, I think the opposite of the "no child left behind" program, is keeping the federal government's nose out of something it has no grant of constitutional authority to be involved in.

You don't have to think that the states always do the right thing about education, to believe that the federal government ought to stay out of it.

 

[Barbara]

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?021014fa_fact3

A lot of detail on her and her history.

"I've watched it over and over again—the sequential underestimation of Condi," says Janne Nolan, who was a fellow at Stanford with Rice and is still a close friend. "It just gets worse and worse. She's always thought of as underqualified and in over her head, and she always kicks everyone's butt."

 

[fistful]

I for one dont like her anti choice views

Sir:
Don't expect to use pejoratives like "anti choice" without getting some reaction from anti-abortion types like myself. I refrain from casually referring to the pro-abortion side as "pro-death" or "Nazi" and it is to be hoped you would have the same consideration. Neither do I use silly euphemisms like "pro-life."

she is pro-choice only so far as abortion should be legal in cases of rape and incest and the LIFE of the mother, she frowns on the idea of affirmative action.

She's not perfect, but that still sounds too good to be true.

First black, first woman, is the superbowl the time to try completely new strategies?

Is race still important enough that it would be risky for either party to run a Black American?

From the New Yorker piece:

John Ashcroft, the Administration's leading evangelical Christian

Oh, I thought he was the Attorney General. Still, a very good read.

 

[Brett Bellmore]

I don't see how a woman and/or a black candidate constitutes a "new strategy"; If anything, the new strategy would be something along the lines of "running somebody smart who actually believes in what the party supposedly stands for".

Frankly, If Rice were a 54 year old white guy, I'd still think she'd make a good candidate. (Though she'd stop being my dream date. ) Her being a black woman offering all sorts of opportunities to bring the Democratic party's concealed racism out where everybody can see it is just a bonus. I suspect that when they start openly calling her an "Aunt Jemima", it's going to become difficult for a lot of blacks to ignore the real nature of the party they've been giving their vote to.

 

[sturmruger]

Condi is a Republican dream come true!!! She is a women and she is black. I can honestly say that I am almost positive that Hillary is going to run. While I have my doubts most say that Hillary is a women, and would be the first women to land on a major party ticket. How great would it be for the GOP to one up the Dems and have a black female run! It is so perfect I can taste it. She has my vote that is for sure. Even as a Republican I think she would get a large portion of the black vote.


Unfortunetly the WI primary is so late in the year it really doesn't matter what I think.

 

[Wildalaska]

I refrain from casually referring to the pro-abortion side as "pro-death" or "Nazi" and it is to be hoped you would have the same consideration

Whatever

WildnoneedtodragitfurtherintothemudAlaska

 

[Monkeyleg]

Cut out the abortion crap, ok? This thread is too serious to have it locked down.

Hillary is a seasoned campaigner, almost as good as Bill. She's positioning herself very well for 2008. Even Newt Gingrich has had very good things to say about how she's preparing herself.

For Dr. Rice to be able to run and win, she needs experience in elective office. How to get that? Have Vice President Cheney resign due to health problems next year. She could be vice president, and still tour the world dealing with our allies and enemies, all the while racking up even more positives.

If, as Morris suggests, the situation in Iraq and Israel/Palestine go well, she's going to be a superstar.

Let's face it: Guiliani and McCain would have a tough time against Hillary. Guiliani's popularity peaked during 9/11. Seven years later, his star will have faded. And neither Guiliani nor McCain are popular among the core conservatives.

Jeb Bush is a possibility, but I doubt America wants to see another member of the family in office, at least not this soon.

 

[itgoesboom]

Dr. Rice is a perfect choice for '08. And it has nothing to do with her sex or skin color (although, I think it would be great to have a black woman president, just imagine all the KKK freaks that would piss off )

Every time I hear her talk or read what she has said about issues, I have agreed 100% with her. She is brilliant, and the world knows it. Even the Democrats are having a tough time painting her as a moron (although Wesley Clarke has tried pretty hard).

But she brings with her a certain amount of baggage, and that is the Bush administration.

Let's face it, most of us aren't that happy with Bush, we are only happy compared to how we would feel if that Kerry creature was President.

While Bush is working on some great things (disarming N. Korea, Iran, working on the Isreali/Palistinian situation, fixing social security), he has been a disapointment to even us in many areas. Lots of excess spending, terrible at protecting our borders, and while his policy of pre-emptive war might have been the best course for the country, polls show that support for the war in Iraq is extremely low.

So unless the administration is very succesfull in the next four year, Dr. Rice might have a tough time getting the support needed. I think we will need to have at least 2 years of peace in the M.E., N. Korea at least talking to us, and preferably allowing inspectors back in, and Iran abandoning their Nuke program.

In addition to those goals, I think we will need a much stronger economy if we want Dr. Rice to be elected. Even though the economy hasn't been her concern, the fact that she is in the Bush administration will hurt her if we don't have a strong economy, otherwise she will end up getting some of the blame (even though she doesn't deserve it.)

Plus, expect to have a more moderate candidate as VP if she goes as President. Someone like McCain , since Dr. Rice is pretty far to the right.

I.G.B.

 

[fistful]

Let's face it, most of us aren't that happy with Bush

Most of who? A significant number of Republicans are ready to put the man's face on Rushmore. Or did you mean High Roader's?

polls show that support for the war in Iraq is extremely low.

Last I knew it was in the forties or fifties. Is that extremely low? How does that compare to other wars, especially at times when we were perceived to be losing?

Dr. Rice is pretty far to the right

Why do people keep saying this? What are her views? No; I will not research it myself.

 

[ravinraven]

I got this line from up the thread somewhere and think it would make a great bumper sticker to start appearing now. [We need a Rice For Prez web site.]

"America is smart enough to vote for Dr. Rice in '08".

I know three Democrats and a RINO, all retired college profs, who are all a-flutter over Dr. Rice and would vote for her in a flash.

I can't see anything wrong with her. I wonder how the blacks would vote in such an election with Hitlary or any white on the Dem side.

It sure would make the fools who say that Reps hate blacks and women look...well, like fools.

Dr. Rice and Gen Powell have been given "real" positions in the Bush cabinet. Slickster put blacks in court jester positions. Good old Dr. Elders was a laugh a minute in the Health Nanny General slot. I hated to see her go.

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