To Those Who Hate Guns - Part 2

[mnrivrat]

A few thoughts addressed to those who believe disarming their fellow citizens is a good thing, and that it will make America a better, safer , society. (2nd posting with more to follow ?)

2.) The demonizing of an inanimate object as being the source of crime or evil is a common theme among those who do not like firearms. When someone has made a statement like "I hate guns" , I always ask why ? Often the answer is "I don't know - I just hate them ! " , but another popular answer is that "They kill people" .

One doesn't have to look far for the most common response to this statement, but for some reason, that doesn't seem to satisfy those who "hate guns" . From there it often turns to the "if they didn't have guns people couldn't kill others so easily " . While there is some truth in that statement it doesn't reflect the reality that bad people will always have guns, and taking them away from good people leaves them defenseless. There are those who would think it completely inhuman to de-claw a cat rendering it defenseless against other cats, but wouldn't hesitate to render their fellow citizens defenseless against criminals .

I am at a loss as to how people can blame mechanical objects for the actions they perform under the control of another human being. I am also at a loss why this thought process would not extend to other mechanical devices if safety was a primary motivator , since many more people are killed in auto accidents for example. (there are a number of other examples as well that exceed the numbers put out by firearm ownership)

Even though I have heard the argument that guns were "designed to kill" , I see no evidence that they were designed to have a will of their own. To me they are as good, or evil, as the person who is controling them. In the hands of an evil person, they can be a distructive device, and in the hands of a good person, they can be a protective barrier against evil persons. ( as well as serving a host of other ligitimate uses)

 

[up_onus]

Well, I have noticed that many people want to believe in the best part of humanity. Take away all guns and people wouldnt get hurt by them....yet, they forget the part that BG's will always have them and this is a truely flawed feeling or thought. Guns will go away when governments go away...and that will happen when pigs fly backward through a snowstorm while saying "jesus saves".

So, I believe that most "anti-gunners" are doing what THEY think best (as you do as an owner). Dont hate them back, feel sorry for them! Education is the key....

 

[fantacmet]

Just as you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink it.

You can show an anti the truth, and back it up, but you can't make the education sink in if they don't want to actually listen, thereby making the education just as useless as wasting the energy to bring that damn horse to the watering hole when you just shoulda shot the stupid horse in the first place.

Not suggesting we shoot anti's.

Michael

 

[Axman]

Then when the horse either dies from thirst or a bullet to the head, then you can beat him!


Anti-gun people will alway just cover their ears and say, "La, la, la, I can't hear you, la,la, la,!!!"

 

[Zoogster]

Even if someone is anti-gun, legal guns benefit them. When people desire a gun in America there are many legal sources of the types our government sees fit. In countries with outright bans a person wanting an already illegal firearm may as well get the most effective firearm possible as the blackmarket is not restricted by types. So criminals with connections sport full auto weaponry smuggled from elsewhere, instead of some stolen semi from someone that had a legal one localy. So keeping firearms legal allows some say in the matter, while outlawing them takes away regulatory control completely.

 

[ozwyn]

to the gun haters.

When the LA riots hit, a lot fo you woke up.

When 9/11 hit, a few more of you woke up.

After Katrina, a lot of you woke up.

Hear that? that is the alarm clock of a world where in the end YOU must be responsible for the safety of yourself and those you love. Not the police, not any government agency, or the red cross.

Don't be caught asleep the next time the fan is hit.

 

[Declaration Day]

One of the more recent arguments I've heard- and I give the antis an "A" for creativity on this one- is that criminals arm themselves BECAUSE law-abiding citizens are armed.

While it's true that criminals use firearms against law-abiding citizens, the vast majority of shootings I hear about involve gang members, drug dealers and thugs shooting each other.

 

[Firehand]

"Crooks are arming themselves because honest people are armed"?

Let's see, we should disarm ourselves because 'then the disadvantaged people who have been forced to turn to crime(i.e. crooks)' will then feel safe to beat us with tire irons, and will thus turn away from the wicked firearms...

The twists in thinking that are required to believe that are just amazing.

 

[ctdonath]

Methinks a major part of the obsession with banning inanimate objects is our advertising-influenced culture. We're bombarded daily/hourly/by-the-minute by ads insisting that simply possessing Product X will solve Problem Y ... which by implication means that Product W causes Problem Z.

As a culture, we're so obsessed with things being the cause or solution to problems, that the natural result is that if there is a problem, people assume that getting or eliminating a thing will solve it. ...it's never individual behavior, is it?