Today’s Experience with Gun Show Wackadoos

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To StrikeFire83:


Why did you buy the Turner Diaries? Do you know where your money goes when you buy that crap? Straight into their pockets. Give me three minutes and a working computer with a decent internet connection and I could find you tons of free downloads of it.

*Not trying to be a jerk, ive actually been meaning to get a copy myself to read*

And to LBG:

I understand where you come from, and a firm stance on racial supremacy(not just white) is needed. However, K98's stamped with swastikas and Mosin Nagants stamped with the hammer and sickle have no place whatsoever being banned. Part of the reason for buying my MN was for the historical value of it. Plus the hammer and sickle gives it a spiffy little touch. Does that make me a Communist for adoring a stamp on a receiver?

Im also looking to buy a K98 Mauser sometime in the future, and I wont buy one if it doesnt have the Swastika on it. Does that make me a Nazi?

I believe that history should play a larger role in our society. And banning mil-surp firearms that are stamped with long dead opposing ideologies is not the way to go. History in text is good, but firsthand history is the best kind of history lesson you will ever recieve.
 
After reading through this thread, I have several thoughts. Since Fat people seem to be a major problem for some of the control freaks among us, why not legislate smaller doors on all buildings over a certain size, that'd keep 'em out. Of course many of the regular gun nuts also widen as they age, so maybe we could have a grease station outside for those who pass the admittence test.
Grease 'em up and slide 'em through.
If you want to be a good little gun owner, just go join some of the anti's front organizations, you can get a list from the Joyce Foundation. Of course they may only be pretending to like you until the ungood gun owners are all gone, but you won't have to deal with those trashy people wjo "aren't our kind". There is nothing you can do make the RTKABA acceptable to the anti's, period.
I don't care for the junk and the natzis and the white supremecists, et al, but it is a free society and ignoring them is a price we pay.
 
I say that's BS. I think people collect those because they do want to associate with that fallen regime. The Antibubba is absolutely right about this.
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The biggest collection of WWII-era Nazi weapons, accoutrements, uniforms, and bric-a-brac I've ever seen is owned by a guy who's Jewish.
 
I mostly like the shows the way they are...burrs and all. Where else can you walk among people of all colors, creeds, incomes, odors, and various mental illnesses, surrounded by guns and ammo, and live to tell about it.
 
I mostly like the shows the way they are...burrs and all. Where else can you walk among people of all colors, creeds, incomes, odors, and various mental illnesses, surrounded by guns and ammo, and live to tell about it.
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Well. There's Iraq, but that's a little more hazardous!
 
Why did you buy the Turner Diaries? Do you know where your money goes when you buy that crap? Straight into their pockets. Give me three minutes and a working computer with a decent internet connection and I could find you tons of free downloads of it.
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No, I would never pay $$ for that ****. I went read the whole thing for free online.

Poorly written and disgusting, neo-nazi fantasy.
 
I was watching a show on the history channel or it may have been one of the Skinhead documentaries on A&E, but they were reading excerpts from it and it lowered my.....enthusiasm(if you can call it that) about reading it. I still may pick it up though sometime.

Is it really worth reading? Or interesting in the least?
 
I say that's BS. I think people collect those because they do want to associate with that fallen regime. The Antibubba is absolutely right about this.
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So then similarly, those who collect Mosin-Nagant rifles are Stalinists?

Your thinking on the subject seems a tad one-dimensional, ESPECIALLY for somebody who considers themselves liberal...
 
"If you guys think Guns Shows are a showcase of the dregs of humanity, you should try attending a Renaissance Faire - or even better, an SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) event. Hang out in one of those places for awhile, and you'll think the Nazi's and Mall Ninjutsu look pretty normal by comparison."

This can't be emphasized enough. ;)

It's a solid fact that anytime you have a gathering of enthusiasts, you will have a certain percentage of the obsessives/borderline mentally unfit/not so borderline mentally unfit in attendance, making their presence well known. This goes for everything from SCA to 'mainstream' sports events (you know, those soccer hooligans? The guys wearing nothing but shorts and paint at an American football game in the driving snow?).

It's all in good fun, so long as you take it that way.

Alas for Liberal Gun Owner, who perverts the true meaning of Liberal with his mindless hate. Remember, kids, you don't have to be a Nazi to be filled with vile, obsessive ardor against your fellow man.
 
Whether a Mall Ninja...

a nazi sympathiser or some guy named Susan, you will find all types at a gun show. You will find tables offering nazi memorabilia with no hidden agenda, just the historical value. You may find true skinheads or you might find a table full of beanie babies <Perhaps the most offensive thing on the planet>

Now, here is the rub....The promoter allowed the table.... ok, now it is up to you to decide whom you want to associate with. See, now that is freedom of association. Just as the promoter had the freedom to allow them on the premises, you have the freedom to simply not go. This way the promoter loses money and therefore must determine why.

You also have the freedom to not stop at the table or even to fart in their general direction, but that's it. You also have the right to complain to the promoter and the promoter has the right to ignore you.

You have the right to be 300 lbs and wear Special Forces t-shirt 3 sizes too small. We have the right to laugh, but that's it. You have the right to be politically incorrect, and we have the right to turn our noses and not speak to you.

We, however do NOT have the right to impose our will on the promoter except as it pertains to whether we will attend an event.

So, please, for the love of <insert named Deity here> close this silly thread.
 
Now that I'm enlightened, I hereby declare my intent to rid myself of the following instruments of evil:

my WWI German Mausers for their role in the invasion of Belgium and France, and resulting loss of life;

my WWII German Mausers for their affiliation with nazi's and and associated atrocities;

my American Krag for it's use in the suppression of Filipino nationalist aspirations;

my early Turk Mausers for their possible role in the Armenian genocide;

my several Mosin's for their use in Stalinist repression and terror;

my Israeli Mausers for their use in the repression of the various Arab peoples;

my reproduction 1853 Enfield rifled musket for it's historical use by the CSA in their effort to continue slavery;

I'm sure I'll find some others as I go through my collection. It'll sure be nice to get rid of all that guilt......
 
Dravur, obviously you didn’t read my ORIGINAL post, otherwise you would have realized that I never advocated banning anything, or anyone. I was just trying to tell a story about some of the silly people who populate these things and the likely mass public opinion of them.

Find a post where I said anything or anyone should be banned and I’ll paypal you $5.

Oh, and for someone who wants unbridled effluence of opinion, it’s interesting that you’d want to close down a discussion…:neener:

91Bravo, see above.
 
Actually...

Strikefire, the post was not meant about you or for you, but to all those who think that the shows themselves should police who should and should not be allowed to sell. "For business reasons"

I mean, I think the Beanie baby sellers should be publicly flogged, but if the promoter allows it, I just ignore their table.

I had no problem with the original post except that in any hobby, there are going to be the people who do not fit a single mold and I thought the thread had served it effective life
 
forced to go?

I don't think I have ever seen any shows where the forced anybody to go.
If you don't like what they have,say.do, or support,just say NO.
It is a free country,mostly, so just don't give them your money if you don't want to.
I don't have a problem with anthing that is gun-related,which is what most of these GUN shows are supposed to be about.
However,a lot of these are just flea markets,and I try to avoid these types of shows, it just depends on how I feel at the time.:) :)

Just my .02 worth,
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The very thought of "Liberal Gun Nut" boycotting gun shows, should be a sign for all of us. Things aren't all that bad. :) We still have shows to go to, and we won't have to put up with idiots, like him, that believe a "Luger" killed a Jew, or a "Mauser" killed an American. Let me make it REAL simple for you, "Liberal Gun Nut": GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE. PEOPLE SOMETIMES USE THEM, TO KILL. Get it! Owning a WW11 German firearm will not make me a Jew hater. It won't make me invade Poland, and it certainly won't make me go crazy, and shoot any owner of an American made firearm from the same war! SHEESE!!!! It's been a long time since I've read crap like yours, on a gun board. Nuff said. I wanted to say more, but it's THR.
 
There was a thread on this same subject about a month ago.

I agree with Liberal Gun Nut. Maybe we're not so liberal after all. The Turner Diaries, and Neo-Nazi/White Supremesist literature has no place at a Gun Show. It makes us ALL look bad. I don't think these people should even be allowed to have guns, for the simple reason that they are all morons.

Now, before the usual gang of smartasses jumps on me, and asks if I would ban the Bible, let me say, yes I would......from gun shows. Gun shows should be about guns. That's why they're called "Gun Shows". The presence of these Nazi idiots only gives the antis more ammunition. We don't need this kind of exposure.

I have no objection to GENUINE enemy war memorabillia, because it has some historical significance. If you are selling the real thing, you are a collector. If you are selling knock-offs, you are a supporter, IMO.

I don't like the idea of Beenie Babies at a gun show, either, but we haven't yet fought a war to stamp out Beenie Babies. Beenies Babies have never advocated mass-murder.

Some of these Nazi-types might be interested to know that their "God", Adolph Hitler, was not a supporter of the RKBA. One of the first things the Nazis did, after they took power, was push through sweeping anti-gun legislation, divesting the German people of anything but shotguns for hunting. That's right, folks! Hitler was an anti. And people still can't figure out how the German people allowed the Nazis to pull off the Holocost. They had no choice. The Nazis had all the guns.

Hey, maybe that is grounds to keep them out of gun shows! The Nazis were antis! :evil:
 
I agree with Liberal Gun Nut. Maybe we're not so liberal after all. The Turner Diaries, and Neo-Nazi/White Supremesist literature has no place at a Gun Show. It makes us ALL look bad. I don't think these people should even be allowed to have guns, for the simple reason that they are all morons.
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So you think "morons" should not be allowed to have guns, huh? You volunteer to decide who the "morons" are, or can anyone make that choice? Maybe Sarah Brady could come up with a Moronic Litmus Test...

(btw, if you find yourself agreeing with self-described liberals, chances are that instead of them being "not so liberal" you may want to consider that you are more liberal that you thought...)

Now, before the usual gang of smartasses jumps on me, and asks if I would ban the Bible, let me say, yes I would......from gun shows. Gun shows should be about guns. That's why they're called "Gun Shows". The presence of these Nazi idiots only gives the antis more ammunition. We don't need this kind of exposure.
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So nothing at "gun shows" but guns? No ammo, no reloading stuff, no RKBA literature (or just no "moronic" lit?) No Army surplus junk, no bumper stickers, no knives, no beef jerky. Just guns.

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Hey, maybe that is grounds to keep them out of gun shows! The Nazis were antis!
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Or, how about letting the show promoter, who stakes his money on the show being a success, deciding on who he'll rent tables to, and being responsible for those decisions? Sounds like a more appropriate choice for a free country.
 
Sorry, Mr. <strike>Malloy</strike>, er, Burk. If it talks like a liberal, and wants to tell everyone how to live their lives like a liberal, and insults posters who disagree with its ideas like a liberal, it probably is a liberal.

As to your "criteria" for defining "morons", isn't it simply a list of non-PC groups which the liberal media won't castigate you for denying RKBA? And of course it will be an ever-expanding group.

No thanks, I prefer universal RKBA, and then prosecute anyone who uses firearms to commit real crimes, regardless of their "group identity".

You are right about one thing, though. I don't have a girlfriend.
 
Dudes, it's just like a grocery store. When you go to the store, do you buy one of each thing on the shelves? No. You buy what you want and leave everything else there.

It's simple business. The promoter has to sell tables. If gun dealers don't buy all of them, he sells them to someone else. If he didn't, he'd go out of business and there wouldn't be any gun shows.
 
It's more like a public garage sale. Don't complain about the people selling. They're not professional sales people. When the employees at the Banana Republic start wearing Nazi uniforms and telling me that the Jews control the government when I buy some new khakis, then I'll raise a stink. Until that time, I'll let the weirdos at gun shows be. They just want attention.
 
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