hacksaw
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The NYT....
For a fish-wrapper it's pretty good stuff..
for a source of unbiased journalism...not so much.
For a fish-wrapper it's pretty good stuff..
for a source of unbiased journalism...not so much.
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MrDig
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You mean the "News Paper of Record" is fishwrap? You don't actually mean to say that the Columnist is spouting opinion not real news?
I grew up with the Minneapolis Star and Tribune. Talk about liberal fishwrap rags this one is Way up on the list. The fact that NYC is a breeding ground for these rags is NOT news to me.
I grew up with the Minneapolis Star and Tribune. Talk about liberal fishwrap rags this one is Way up on the list. The fact that NYC is a breeding ground for these rags is NOT news to me.
unspellable
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Who says?
So who says X number of felons and what not in Florida have been issued CCW permits? I'm supposed to believe this clown?
So who says X number of felons and what not in Florida have been issued CCW permits? I'm supposed to believe this clown?
Who cares?
There are two kinds of people:
1. Those who can be trusted to walk the streets.
2. Those who can't.
If you can't be trusted with a gun, then I don't trust you with a kitchen knife, a baseball bat, a power saw, a motor vehicle, a bottle of whiskey, or a ballpoint pen. You can't be trusted to walk the streets, and you should be behind bars, or, in extreme cases, dead.
If you CAN be trusted to walk the streets, I don't care what your criminal RECORD is. Did the people who "shouldn't" have been issued permits actually commit any crimes with the guns? If not, I couldn't care less if they got in a brawl 20 years ago. Do you?
There are two kinds of people:
1. Those who can be trusted to walk the streets.
2. Those who can't.
If you can't be trusted with a gun, then I don't trust you with a kitchen knife, a baseball bat, a power saw, a motor vehicle, a bottle of whiskey, or a ballpoint pen. You can't be trusted to walk the streets, and you should be behind bars, or, in extreme cases, dead.
If you CAN be trusted to walk the streets, I don't care what your criminal RECORD is. Did the people who "shouldn't" have been issued permits actually commit any crimes with the guns? If not, I couldn't care less if they got in a brawl 20 years ago. Do you?
Mr. James
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No, Armed Bear, I don't. Well said.
Redneck with a 40
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Personally, I say "so what"! If there are 1400 felons running around Florida with CCW's, odds are they will run into a citizen who has a legitimate CCW and they will get what they deserve...a bullet. This is a breakdown of the criminal justice system that allows felons to obtain CCW's. Blaming the law is a stupid. The "secular progressives" as Bill O'Reilly calls them have already succeeded in infiltrating our justice system, instead of doing hard time, criminals are given probation and put into "treatment" programs. 
Just so they can go back out on the street and commit the crime again.
FACT : 60 % of police officers killed in the line of duty, are killed by a perp who is either on probation or parole!
Just so they can go back out on the street and commit the crime again.FACT : 60 % of police officers killed in the line of duty, are killed by a perp who is either on probation or parole!
In Indiana, the law says that if you are a proper person and have a proper reason, you will be issued a permit. On the other hand if something changes and you are no longer a proper person, your permit is no longer valid, and you can be charged with possession even though you still have the piece of paper. I do not know Florida law, but they may have a similar clause.
The end result of felons having a piece of paper is moot.
But then it woudn't be "news", would it?
The end result of felons having a piece of paper is moot.
But then it woudn't be "news", would it?
B.S. "How to Lie with Statistics"
In Michigan, over the past about 3 years, the Detroit News and the Detroit (You Thought You Were) Free Press have cried foul and laid claims to the public that, "...Michigan has over 4,000 convicted felons in classrooms." They claimed that we had murderers, child-molesters and rapists. Teachers were the plague of America, and we were all doomed!
The legislation was forced through by the press' public pressure and lies, bullying Michigan's legislators to pass some of the most ignorant laws, and this based on flawed data. The facts finally have surfaced. There were two...2 people (neither educators) who did not meet the qualifications to work in public education!
Where in the Hades do the horror mongers get their "facts"? What ever happened to the days of reporters reporting, instead of social conditioning? At least get the facts right! This crap is right out of the old How to Lie with Statistics text. And most disconcerting of all, how can they pick and choose which Constitutional Rights to exert?
What should happen if we were to say that all those in the news, must be “security-cleared”, and have a 30-day cooling-off period before they can buy a pen, pencil, recorder, paper, camera, etc. Then, prior to carrying it they must have training about it proper use. After all, running with a pencil can kill…right?
Doc2005
In Michigan, over the past about 3 years, the Detroit News and the Detroit (You Thought You Were) Free Press have cried foul and laid claims to the public that, "...Michigan has over 4,000 convicted felons in classrooms." They claimed that we had murderers, child-molesters and rapists. Teachers were the plague of America, and we were all doomed!
The legislation was forced through by the press' public pressure and lies, bullying Michigan's legislators to pass some of the most ignorant laws, and this based on flawed data. The facts finally have surfaced. There were two...2 people (neither educators) who did not meet the qualifications to work in public education!
Where in the Hades do the horror mongers get their "facts"? What ever happened to the days of reporters reporting, instead of social conditioning? At least get the facts right! This crap is right out of the old How to Lie with Statistics text. And most disconcerting of all, how can they pick and choose which Constitutional Rights to exert?
What should happen if we were to say that all those in the news, must be “security-cleared”, and have a 30-day cooling-off period before they can buy a pen, pencil, recorder, paper, camera, etc. Then, prior to carrying it they must have training about it proper use. After all, running with a pencil can kill…right?
Doc2005
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hey, if it makes you feel any better (mu hahahahahahahahahahah)
New York Times Posts Loss, Writes Down Value of Boston Globe
By Leon Lazaroff
Jan. 31 (Bloomberg) -- New York Times Co., the third-largest U.S. newspaper publisher, posted a loss of $648 million after writing down the value of its Boston Globe unit. The company also said it will restate results.
The net loss was $4.50 a share, from $63.2 million, or 44 cents, a year earlier, the New York-based publisher said today in a statement. Revenue rose 4.3 percent to $931.5 million, compared with the average analyst estimate of $899 million in a Bloomberg survey.
New York Times, also publisher of its namesake newspaper, struggled to boost circulation and advertising at the New England Media Group, which includes the Boston Globe, Boston.com and the Worchester Telegram & Gazette. The company wrote down the value of the assets, bought 13 years ago for $1.1 billion, by $814.4 million.
``The Boston economy is still tough,'' said Steven Barlow, an analyst at Prudential Equity Group in New York who has an ``underweight'' rating on the stock.
New York Times shares fell 15 cents to $22.90 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading yesterday. They had declined 18 percent in the past year before today.
Profit excluding the charge was 61 cents a share, beating the 47-cent average estimate of 13 analysts.
New York Times is cutting costs to prop up profit as advertising revenue cools. Earlier this month, the company sold its nine U.S. television stations to Oak Hill Capital Partners for $575 million in order to pay down debt and expand its Internet businesses.
Circulation Drops
Weekday circulation at the Boston Globe fell 6.7 percent to 386,415 in the six months ended Sept. 30, according to the most recent figures from the Audit Bureau of Circulations. Advertising revenue at New England Media Group fell 12 percent to $97.4 million in the third quarter.
New York Times said in November that it might reduce the value of the assets, sparking speculation the company may be willing to sell the New England unit. Former General Electric Co. Chairman Jack Welch said in November that he is interested in buying the Boston Globe.
A week ago, the Globe said it will close its last overseas news bureau to save more than $1 million a year. The closings came as the newspaper said it would eliminate 125 jobs at its New England group.
Both the Massachusetts newspapers are struggling to compensate for advertising lost when Filene's and Macy's, two major local retailers, were combined by Federated Department Stores Inc.
To contact the reporter on this story: Leon Lazaroff in New York at [email protected] .
Last Updated: January 31, 2007 08:48 EST
New York Times Posts Loss, Writes Down Value of Boston Globe
By Leon Lazaroff
Jan. 31 (Bloomberg) -- New York Times Co., the third-largest U.S. newspaper publisher, posted a loss of $648 million after writing down the value of its Boston Globe unit. The company also said it will restate results.
The net loss was $4.50 a share, from $63.2 million, or 44 cents, a year earlier, the New York-based publisher said today in a statement. Revenue rose 4.3 percent to $931.5 million, compared with the average analyst estimate of $899 million in a Bloomberg survey.
New York Times, also publisher of its namesake newspaper, struggled to boost circulation and advertising at the New England Media Group, which includes the Boston Globe, Boston.com and the Worchester Telegram & Gazette. The company wrote down the value of the assets, bought 13 years ago for $1.1 billion, by $814.4 million.
``The Boston economy is still tough,'' said Steven Barlow, an analyst at Prudential Equity Group in New York who has an ``underweight'' rating on the stock.
New York Times shares fell 15 cents to $22.90 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading yesterday. They had declined 18 percent in the past year before today.
Profit excluding the charge was 61 cents a share, beating the 47-cent average estimate of 13 analysts.
New York Times is cutting costs to prop up profit as advertising revenue cools. Earlier this month, the company sold its nine U.S. television stations to Oak Hill Capital Partners for $575 million in order to pay down debt and expand its Internet businesses.
Circulation Drops
Weekday circulation at the Boston Globe fell 6.7 percent to 386,415 in the six months ended Sept. 30, according to the most recent figures from the Audit Bureau of Circulations. Advertising revenue at New England Media Group fell 12 percent to $97.4 million in the third quarter.
New York Times said in November that it might reduce the value of the assets, sparking speculation the company may be willing to sell the New England unit. Former General Electric Co. Chairman Jack Welch said in November that he is interested in buying the Boston Globe.
A week ago, the Globe said it will close its last overseas news bureau to save more than $1 million a year. The closings came as the newspaper said it would eliminate 125 jobs at its New England group.
Both the Massachusetts newspapers are struggling to compensate for advertising lost when Filene's and Macy's, two major local retailers, were combined by Federated Department Stores Inc.
To contact the reporter on this story: Leon Lazaroff in New York at [email protected] .
Last Updated: January 31, 2007 08:48 EST
Turkey Creek
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What's the difference between the NY Times, or for that matter, most if not all big city "newspapers" than Pravda?- I have my opinion, just wondering what others think?
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Turkey Creek
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DonP
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How kind of them.
To offer a considered opinion on another state's laws when they have such a staggering murder and gang crime rate in NYC alone.
Perhaps they's like to also weigh in on the referendum in my community on extending the sewers to a newly annexed piece of land.
After all, I'm sure the NYT has a Point of view, complete with Maureen Down, Paul Krugman and the rest of the Kremlin elite, they seem to have an opinion on every other aspect of our lives they'd like to have the government control.
Of course it never occurs to them that they are so far out of the mainstream that that is why their readership is in the crapper?
To offer a considered opinion on another state's laws when they have such a staggering murder and gang crime rate in NYC alone.
Perhaps they's like to also weigh in on the referendum in my community on extending the sewers to a newly annexed piece of land.
After all, I'm sure the NYT has a Point of view, complete with Maureen Down, Paul Krugman and the rest of the Kremlin elite, they seem to have an opinion on every other aspect of our lives they'd like to have the government control.
Of course it never occurs to them that they are so far out of the mainstream that that is why their readership is in the crapper?
RNB65
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Yet, when it come to violent crime, it's New York that people fear, not Florida.
ArfinGreebly
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Illegal Guns
Error.
Let me help you with that:
There ya go.
Otherwise, we're going to have to add a letter to BATFE: "H" -- for Hardware and we're we're going to have a new form, the 4499, used to register such lethal equipment as hammers, hatches & axes, knives, nail guns, crowbars, planks, pipe, power tools of all kinds, and big nails.
Otherwise, you know, people might get murdered with illegal hardware.
Oh, wait, I haven't covered sports equipment yet . . .
Error.
Let me help you with that:
There ya go.
Otherwise, we're going to have to add a letter to BATFE: "H" -- for Hardware and we're we're going to have a new form, the 4499, used to register such lethal equipment as hammers, hatches & axes, knives, nail guns, crowbars, planks, pipe, power tools of all kinds, and big nails.
Otherwise, you know, people might get murdered with illegal hardware.
Oh, wait, I haven't covered sports equipment yet . . .
More than likely a product of his imagination.
Let's try this statistic...
Total Violent Crime and Rate for Florida, 1996-2005
From 2004 to 2005, Violent crimes in Florida were up 1.7 percent in number and down 0.6 percent in rate. See table below.
Violent Crimes Include: Murder, Forcible Sex Offenses, Robbery and Aggravated Assault.
Ten Year Trend
1996-2005
http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/Crime_Trends/violent/index.asp#Total Violent Crime
Total Violent Crime and Rate for Florida, 1996-2005
From 2004 to 2005, Violent crimes in Florida were up 1.7 percent in number and down 0.6 percent in rate. See table below.
Violent Crimes Include: Murder, Forcible Sex Offenses, Robbery and Aggravated Assault.
Ten Year Trend
1996-2005
http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/Crime_Trends/violent/index.asp#Total Violent Crime
Mousegun
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Here's the basic point. Let's say a few criminals DO fall through the cracks and get access to legal firearms so that the majority can exercise their 2nd Amendment rights. So what?
Lots of criminals "get away" with illegal activities because of the protection of the 4th Amendment. Ask this NYT guy if he's be OK with eliminating EVERYONE'S 4th Amendment rights just to catch a few extra criminals. Would he support that?
We all have to accept that allowing people to exercise their fundamental civil liberties means that some criminals will fall through the cracks. Do you want liberty, or do you want "safety" (i.e., to live in a police state)? You can't have it both ways.
Lots of criminals "get away" with illegal activities because of the protection of the 4th Amendment. Ask this NYT guy if he's be OK with eliminating EVERYONE'S 4th Amendment rights just to catch a few extra criminals. Would he support that?
We all have to accept that allowing people to exercise their fundamental civil liberties means that some criminals will fall through the cracks. Do you want liberty, or do you want "safety" (i.e., to live in a police state)? You can't have it both ways.
Stauble
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yeah MY local paper :banghead: i really need to get the hell out of broward county im so sick of all this commie b.s.
tis a shame i love the beach so much
geronimotwo
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do you have a link to this article?
I myself am a resident of Broward County. The originating "news" source was The Sun Sentinel; see sun-sentinel.com. They ran a whole series of articles which have been referenced throughout this forum since Sunday. Disgusting is an understatement as usual.
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Pravda
I've heard that Pravda is the Russian word for 'truth'.
Under the old Evil Empire, average Moscovites quietly understood that, "There is no pravda in Pravda", just as today we can assume there is little to believe in our leftist 'mainstream media'.
I've heard that Pravda is the Russian word for 'truth'.
Under the old Evil Empire, average Moscovites quietly understood that, "There is no pravda in Pravda", just as today we can assume there is little to believe in our leftist 'mainstream media'.
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