"Tombstone" (Director's Cut DVD)

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Who cares about historical accuracy? I watch movies for their entertainment value and Tombstone has oodles of that. Who here really looks to a movie from HOLLYWOOD for historical information?
I mean hey ... Did you notice how doc gets 3 shots from his double barrel in the OK shootout?
I think it was a timeslip but you can only tell for sure when you can replay the scene a few times.
Its a fun movie--'nuff said
 
Good links, made for some interesting reading. Thanks.

I usually go to Tombstone at least 3 times a year.

I also watched the gunfight at the OK Corral reenactment. The part that I liked the most was when the main actor was talking to the audience about gun safety. He set the gun down on the ground in front of the crowd, pointed at it and said "Kill". Of course nothing happened and he told the crowd that guns dont kill, its the people behind the guns that do.

Old Tucson Studios is where Tombstone was taped. I went there this year for the first time. Alot of western movies have been taped there. if you have a chance to come down this way and like westerns by all means visit these two places. Also, Bisbee is an interesting place as well.
 
One of the "science/history" channels had a show that did an analysis of the OK Corral shootout based on all the evidence they could compile.

Autopsy info, old survey/building information, eyewitness accounts, etc.

The gist of it was that the Earps were almost certainly in the right and their being absolved of murder was the correct call.

There were some surprises, the first of which was that according to building/survey records of the time the vacant lot was much narrower than it is today.

I believe that the analysis also showed that while the Earps (Doc, actually) probably fired the first shot he almost certainly did so in response to the shootee trying to pull a rifle from his saddle scabbard. This was based on the autopsy info which showed a rather odd entry angle for the buckshot load.

I don't figure that any movie is historically accurate. Heck, they can't even stick to doing a movie the way a best seller book is written, and that's all in black and white. I think they change some things around just for the fun of it.

Blackhawk Down is a prime example. The moviemaker changed several details from the book even though I could determine absolutely no impact on the overall story... i.e. they made the changes for no apparent reason.

Still, I think Blackhawk Down and Tombstone are very entertaining and would rate them pretty high on my list of good movies.
 
The phrase goes:

J.R- Don't any of you have the guts to play for blood?

D.H -I'm your huckleberry. That's just my game!


What it means is easy enough. To be one’s huckleberry—usually as the phrase I’m your huckleberry—is to be just the right person for a given job, or a willing executor of some commission. Where it comes from needs a bit more explaining.

Here's a couple sites that talk about the saying.

http://www.beavsden.com/napalousa/huckle.html
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-huc1.htm

Jack
 
So how is the Director's Cut different from the copy I have?

It has a number of things that weren't included in the riginal DVD like: 3 production shorts telling how the movie was made, added (deleted scenes) footage and a number of other things...

If you go to Amazon.com and search for Tombstone: Vista Series it will list everything extra... It's pretty cool...

IIRC there were three extra scenes and only one David and I thought wasn't needed....


JohnKSa Thanks for that synopsis on the show... I was JUST talking aobut it this weekend and couldn't remember all the details...
 
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Before this movie, I'd never heard of the "huckleberry" thing, but figured within the context that he(Doc Holliday)was not so subtley challenging Johnny Ringo to a duel. Another line by Doc is, "Will you be my daisy?".

IMHO, this is Val Kilmer's best acting. I don't care that it may not observe historical accuracy; I just think it's great entertainment!
 
Sam Elliot played Virgil Earp. I've enjoyed him in everything I've seen him in and he makes a fantastic cowboy.

He's even better as a Sargent Major (We Were Soldiers).

So, is the Vista Series Directors cut worth the upgrade? I have the other DVD but I really like this movie.
 
So, is the Vista Series Directors cut worth the upgrade? I have the other DVD but I really like this movie.

I am a huge fan of the movie and I didn't even think twice about buying it when I saw the Vista Series edition. Like I said, I think there are three added scenes and only one did we agree wasn't really necessary...


Here's one for Tombstone fans...

"Why Kate, you're not wearin a bustle. How ????" Lewd or dude?

David and I have argued (playfully of course) this for many years... We have watched and watched in slo-mo, done quote searches and I have even seen scripts that list both...
 
Thanks ML. Somehow I missed your post two posts above mine. I think I'm gonna get it and put the one I have now in the pile of other movies that I have both originals and "special editions." Boy does Hollywood got me pegged.
 
I've heard that the famous "huckleberry" line is actually Valmer's slurred "HUCKLE BEARER"--which was apparently another word at the time for pallbearer.
 
Doc leered at (Big Nose) Kate and said..."How lewd..."

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That's what I say also...
 
I've heard that the famous "huckleberry" line is actually Valmer's slurred "HUCKLE BEARER"--which was apparently another word at the time for pallbearer.

In the context he said, "I'm your huckleberry" it generally means "I'm the one you're looking for."

Although it can also mean pallbearer, I really don't think that's what they had in mind, but then of course all movies are open to individuals interpretations of things.

The movie "Once Upon A Time In America" comes to mind. Nobody seems to agree on the ending.


Before this movie, I'd never heard of the "huckleberry" thing, but figured within the context that he(Doc Holliday)was not so subtley challenging Johnny Ringo to a duel. Another line by Doc is, "Will you be my daisy?".


Are you referring to when he says, "you're a daisy if you do" (if the guy shoots him) and "You're no daisy", you're no daisy at all!" (as Ringo's collapsing when he loses the fastdraw)?
 
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