Too protective of my guns?

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IMO, you didn't think quick enough on your feet with the 'not comfortable' talk, as that clearly lays it on the line that you don't trust him to be careful with it, then he tried to grind you into submission and pride gets hurt one way or the other.
I'm sure you trust him, but with a shooter that pricey, all it would take is one teensy scratch and if you're like me, you'd blow a gasket. :)

My response would have been something to the effect of:
"I have a few inflexible rules in my life:
Nobody gets to sleep with my wife, eat off my plate, ride my motorcycle or shoot my guns unless I'm right there partaking in the fun.
So when do you pick me up for shooting this weekend?!!"

That way you've clearly stated the rules in a way that brings humor into the mix so it doesn't turn into hurt pride or feelings, and now it's pretty easy to rib him if he says you aren't invited.

I'm sure there are many other combinations of words to use that will work as well, but that's what I came up with in the moment.
 
no one use's any of my guns,not even family members unless i am their,i dont care how they feel about it.
 
Wow. I had no idea that everyone felt this way. I guess my definition of a friend is a little different than most. Like I said before in an earlier post, I don't have a lot of friends. Of the limited number of friends I have, only about five or six stand out. The five or six, could have anything they wanted anytime they wanted it. I trust them. That's what friendship is about.

To the people who are saying, "What if they do something illegal? Or what if they decide to off someone?" If you don't trust a person any more than that, why the hell would you be friends with them?

tkopp in post #80 hit it right on the head for me.

There are family members that I would not loan my guns to. Then there are those that would get the cheap stuff. Then there is my father and brother who could walk into my house even if I wasn't there and take what they wanted with my blessing, and they feel the same about me. But hey, you can't choose your family can you? Well I can choose my friends. And the friends I choose are people who can be trusted. My dad told me a long time ago, "You are who you hang out with." That taught me a lesson on choosing friends. That being said, if the friend wasn't familiar with firearms, I would tell him he could only use it with me there. This is common sense and needed to prevent potential accidents.

Just my 0.02
 
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My rule on loaning anything including money is don't do it unless you're comfortable never seeing it again, you'll never be dissapointed and delighted when it's returned or paid back.
Additionally I have many single use tools that I could have borrowed but elected to purchase instead staying consistant with my anti-borrowing beliefs. As other posters have mentioned real freinds can usually be counted on one hand, I married my best freind and I doubt she even knows I'd let her borrow my guns, LOL.
 
My approach:

"Buddy, you're really putting me on the spot. This $5000 gun has only been shot...........but if you feel strongly enough about it, how can I deny you?"
 
I have to say I agree with Arkansas Paul and ghoster many of you need new friends. I have a few friends and lots of buddies. My friends are welcome to anything I have and I hope they would feel comfortable asking to borrow anything they want. I pick friends who would be there for me day or night no matter what and I would do the same for them.

I have loaned a friend a lot of money so he could buy his wife a gift that was a surprise and he did not want her missing the money before hand and knowing something was up. Six months later I had to drive across country and they told me to take their brand new $50,000 plus SUV because it was more comfortable then my car. To my real friends I try to be the best friend I can and I have never been burned.
 
No I don't lend or borrow money, women, cars, or guns. Doing so will eventually put you in a bad position.
 
Here's the deal on loaning stuff out. A good friend would not have put you in an "either or situation". They wouldn't have asked as they did. They would have given you wiggle room, because the most important thing to them would have been how you felt about it.

If the friendship is the most important thing, and in the case of a true friendship it is, then nothing is done that would jeopordize that friendship. Ever:cool: notice that good friends never ask to borrow money?
 
I don't loan any of my guns to anyone, period. My home state has some of the strictest gun laws of any state in the Union. Any accident resulting in loss of life or damage to property, private or public involving the use of a firearm results in the confiscation of said firearm by the investigating body. And I've known of "investigations " to drag on for up to four years.
Accidents happen. Friend or not, I don't want any state agency to take possession of any of my guns for any reason.
 
^ That is an entirely different situation.
And I have loaned money to good friends. Good friends are the only ones I would do this for, and they always paid me back.
If someone you know is in a bad situation and you do nothing to help, be it money or otherwise, you are not a friend of that person. Period! Friends take care of each other. That's kind of what friendship is all about.
Don't get me wrong. Just because I know someone doesn't qualify them as a friend.
 
If someone you know is in a bad situation and you do nothing to help, be it money or otherwise, you are not a friend of that person. Period! Friends take care of each other. That's kind of what friendship is all about.
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This guy's friend appears to be in a real bad way. He's BORED, wants to play with his friend's very expensive rifle, and can't POSSIBLY wait a week for his friend to clear up an afternoon to go shooting with him. What kind of heartless freak wouldn't rise to meet his pal's dire need for expensive tactical goodness...right NOW?"

:rolleyes:

-Sam
 
Now Sam, that statement was directed at the posters who are saying that they NEVER loan guns or money period. My statement was geared more towards the subject of friendship than the original post.
 
Ok. I got you. I was thinking back to the original question.

Would a real friend feel o.k. asking you for help becasue he couldn't afford groceries for his family?

Would a real friend hit you up for $50 for beer so he could throw a party (especially one that you aren't invited to)?

Would a real friend ask to borrow a gun because his got damaged and the hunt of a lifetime is tomorrow?

Would he ask to borrow your newest, most expensive rifle just so he could go plink and he can't wait for you to make the time to go with him?

Every friendship is different, and you want your real friends to know that they can count on you in a pinch. But this seems like abuse of a friendship.

-Sam
 
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