Took my NMA ou to the farm

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Bounced some cans around out at the farm. Used up a bunch of preloads and paper carts I had laying around. I thought I would try some Vasoline for lube. It shot good with Vasoline. Vasoline did not work well on the cylinder pin. I was cleaning with hand cleaner everything cleaned up as usual except the barrel I ended up brushing it clean with Bristol and water. I shot two loads using small pistol primers with vinyl tubbing. They worked good and you could tell there were a little hotter. If you had to depend on your NMA they might be the way to go. But after twelve shots the primers were starting to peen my hammer. I am going to try them again but this time I am going back off the mainspring screw.
 
White lithium (non-petro) grease on the cylinder pin / arbor and the cylinder will stay free-wheelin for lots of loads. A mix of olive oil and bee's wax for over/under ball lube.

Vaseline? Nope.
 
Bounced some cans around out at the farm. Used up a bunch of preloads and paper carts I had laying around. I thought I would try some Vasoline for lube. It shot good with Vasoline. Vasoline did not work well on the cylinder pin. I was cleaning with hand cleaner everything cleaned up as usual except the barrel I ended up brushing it clean with Bristol and water. I shot two loads using small pistol primers with vinyl tubbing. They worked good and you could tell there were a little hotter. If you had to depend on your NMA they might be the way to go. But after twelve shots the primers were starting to peen my hammer. I am going to try them again but this time I am going back off the mainspring screw.


Interesting the use of primers. I’m a bit curious if reducing the hammer tension will fix the peening issue.
 
Interesting the use of primers. I’m a bit curious if reducing the hammer tension will fix the peening issue.
You're probably right I'm thinking quick fix try it and see what happens. At some point, I have a few sets of pull off nipples I might shorten a set. The fired primers stay on, no cap jams, easy to seat, and nice positive ignition. But it might be hard on the nipples. Needs more testing.
 
You're probably right I'm thinking quick fix try it and see what happens. At some point, I have a few sets of pull off nipples I might shorten a set. The fired primers stay on, no cap jams, easy to seat, and nice positive ignition. But it might be hard on the nipples. Needs more testing.

Were percussion caps hard to find again you’d easily have an option.

Apparently they need tubing to stay on? How do they fit otherwise?
 
I had a concern about them staying on. Before I loaded al six I tested a few loading one hole at a time. They go easy, easer than caps. I have to do more testing but if all I had was an NMA and needed it for home defense I would consider using small pistol primers. Right now in my area, you can still find caps. I also make caps so I will still be able to shoot. It's nice to keep your options open.
 
I searched to see if some primers were harder than others, and Federals are considered to be among the softest primers,although not necessarily their pistol primers.
They're known to be soft enough that Dillon and Lee loading presses have warnings against using them.
By soft I mean sensitive.
Whereas Remington primers are known to be harder.
Mike56, what kind of primers did you try?
 
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Using these small pistol primers, are they enough for Blackhorn 209 powder when used in revolver?
 
Caps are getting hard to find I have small pistol primers. Just looking for alternatives. I was using fff black powder but I guess you could use Buckhorn 209 I don't know much about that powder.
 
Using these small pistol primers, are they enough for Blackhorn 209 powder when used in revolver?

I read an older post last night in the ROA club that it will only set it off maybe 60% of the time, the rest being misfires.
However, a youtuber has tested it as a duplex load, with a booster charge that works of at least 5 grains of black powder, and a 10 grain booster charge is optional.
The loading method video is 2nd.

And someone was also selling 209 nipples for the Ruger Old Army.

See the duplex loads being fired after 2:50.

The caption reads:

I filed the hammer notch down a couple hundredth of an itch in attempt to make the gun more reliable and stop cap sucking issues that is a real problem to all the Colt style cap and ball revolvers.
Also a Duplex load of 10 grains real black powder for a kick charge 3FG I said Graf's in the video but its actually Goex, and 25 grains by Volume / 15.2 grain by weight... of Black Horn 209 powder . I do not know the pressure or even the velocity of the load but I like! f



 
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