Ger1942
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I agree. I will not watch it live because of him. I record it and just FF when he begins to talk. If he talks while the action is going on I hit mute.
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Tim the student
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Well, near as I can tell, he didn't intend to fire it, and the gun didn't malfunction... so yeah I would sure say it was negligent.
Thankfully he apparently followed the other rules.
smalls
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Seed, I'm not saying we should cut his hand off for the ND, but I think basic safety should have a bigger role on shows that showcase shooting. I would be a little disappointed to watch drag racing with drivers not wearing harnesses too.
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SharpsDressedMan
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Handling guns is dangerous. We should expect a slip now and then. As noted, he was adept enough to keep the muzzle where it should be, and all that was lost was his time and round. I'm glad we discussed it here, but anyone that spends time on a working range sees screwups far worse than this. I'm glad they showed it. It makes the viewers aware that anything can happen, and safety always plays the most important role.
Hawthorne2k
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Ah-yump. Go to any major practical shooting match, be it 3 gun or IDPA or IPSC or what have you, and you;ll see at least one person headed home each match for an ND or unsafe gun handling. Just because we drill the rules into our skulls doesn't mean they're always followed. The trick is to not to get hurt if someone breaks the rules.
smalls
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That's kind of what I'm getting at. There's repercussions for unsafe gun handling at competions. He should have lost points, at least. I am glad they showed it, but they should have pointed out how bad it is for it to happen.
Cal-gun Fan
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Honestly its not that big a deal. Yes, it was an ND, but he was raising the gun up, it was almost on target, and if the area he ND'd into was unsafe the entire challenge would have been unsafe.
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I was in the army in germany with Gary Quesenberry (spelling is off) I will only say that he likes to run his mouth, well after his foot is deeply entrenched in it
Smokin Gator
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At most competitions as long as the round goes downrange, not impacting the ground withing X amount of feet of the shooter, there is no penalty. It would be a DQ if it impacts within 5 or 10 feet of the shooter into the ground or a prop. Some ranges will also DQ you for a round over the berm. Mark
I did get to shoot a larger Gatling gun at Winter Range, the SASS national championship. A guy was demonstrating it and telling about it's history. You could shoot it for a buck a round. I declined at first, but then thought when would I have a chance to shoot another one. Paid $30 to shoot 30 rounds of 45-70 blackkpowder through the thing. That was fun.
I did get to shoot a larger Gatling gun at Winter Range, the SASS national championship. A guy was demonstrating it and telling about it's history. You could shoot it for a buck a round. I declined at first, but then thought when would I have a chance to shoot another one. Paid $30 to shoot 30 rounds of 45-70 blackkpowder through the thing. That was fun.
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Pocket Rocket
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Did the Gatling gun challenge seem like a practical application? Remember the horse-and-buggy challenge where they used a rifle where a shotgun would do a better job. It seems like they are setting up challenges that are, well, challenging but not necessarily the best showcase for the tool.
Ger1942
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It's a show made for TV not a real competition. I don't think they end up with the top shot just the person who best plays the game the best.
I'd like them to get rid of all the showmanship and just shoot. 16 people shooting a bunch of different disciplines with the total winner announced at the end.
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Sorry for chiming in on last weeks episode, but I agree Mike should have gone to elimination. And I am pretty sure he outright LIED to his team. He shot the worst of everyone there, so whether you consider it a "shotgun" event or not, he deserved to go.
Furthermore, he stood up there during training and instructed his teammates how to shoot the shotgun. He even made some mention of being the shotgun guy, therefore he knew what he was doing. Then he goes out and misses everything he shot at!
The worst of all was, when they were up for elimination, not only did he NOT volunteer, but he stated he hit 5 out of 10! which was a big LIE!
I think he is weak in character and skills.
unfortunately, this past tuesday night he managed to win the elimination challenge with the Gatlin gun, so he continues on for another week.
Bonesinium
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Now I could get by with the occasional challenge of something other than a traditional firearm, but this was just dumb. They already did throwing knives and tomahawks before (and the challenges were better too), but to use them again, and then add in, gasp, rocks? You kidding me. They aren't trying out for the pitching position on their little league team. And to make the rock part worth the most points? Lame. As lame as lame can be. Then to have them shoot a cannon? Since when has anybody in artillery been called a marksman for that? The most exciting part about that episode was them voting, because they got to actually shoot a gun.
I'd rather the backstabbing, name calling, ganging up, and other in house BS from last season then this boring crap. The only way the rock throwing would have been any fun to watch was if the challenge was they had to actually hunt and kill their dinner for the night with rocks. Losing team doesn't get to eat that night. That might be fun to watch.
I'd rather the backstabbing, name calling, ganging up, and other in house BS from last season then this boring crap. The only way the rock throwing would have been any fun to watch was if the challenge was they had to actually hunt and kill their dinner for the night with rocks. Losing team doesn't get to eat that night. That might be fun to watch.
Yeah, rocking throwing is about where this show is starting to jump the shark. It is called Top Shot, throwing rocks and knives is not shooting. Now shooting the cannon, yes there are people in history who have been known to be great shots with a cannon. That took more shooting skill than the gattling gun competition did.
In the first season, the elimination challenge followed closely behind the team challenges and they were at least somehow related.
In the first season, the elimination challenge followed closely behind the team challenges and they were at least somehow related.
Jonah71
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Last night was the final straw for me. Throwing rocks? Give me a break. If you're going down that road, logic dictates that they eventually start slugging it out and wrestling. Won't be tuning in again.
USAF_Vet
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DVR'd it, so haven't seen the episode, but I saw the preview. Seems like they are running out of ideas for the season. It's got to be hard to come up with new challanges, but rock trowing is bottom of the barrel type stuff.
Unistat
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One challenge per season where they are not using firearms is not that big of a deal. Personally, I would like to see a challenge with a spear and atlatl.
helitack32f1
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I think maybe it is time people understand that it is called Top Shot, not "Top Shooter of Firearms OK'd By the Users OF THR". Top Shot can imply anything including rocks, marbles and straws and spit wads. At the end of last weeks show, every commercial during the week and the preview at the beginning of the show all clearly showed what they were going to be doing this week and yet you people watched and now feel the need to complain about what you chose to watch?
If all they used were handguns, shotguns and or rifles, it would be nothing more than a three-gun competition. If you want a pure gun competition, there are plenty available on television to watch. Can't find any? Probably because there is little or no entertainment value in your average pure gun shooting competition.
Top Shot...implying shooting. You can shoot a gun, you can shoot a bow...they were not shooting rocks or knives, they were throwing them.
If they had used a sling, the competition would have made more sense...throwing rocks just proves the producers are running out of creative ideas.
If they had used a sling, the competition would have made more sense...throwing rocks just proves the producers are running out of creative ideas.
beatledog7
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Throwing knives and tomahawks and rocks may seem a bit far-fetched and borderline silly to some, but one or two episodes per season with non-firearms is ok by me. After all, all of these things predate the bolt-action rifle, the musket, and the bow as effective long range hunting/killing weapons, and "any weapon" is a Top Shot mantra.
Is hand-to-hand next? No. That would put competitors at too great a risk of personal injury and would never get past the network lawyers.
The show could be a vehicle for promoting new guns, having the competitors shoot the latest and greatest from XYZ Gun Makers, Inc. and ACME Firearms. That has potential for real revenue, but also might have trouble in lawyer land.
How else can the producers of Top Shot ensure variety? I'm sure some THR-ers could design some appropriate challenges.
Is hand-to-hand next? No. That would put competitors at too great a risk of personal injury and would never get past the network lawyers.
The show could be a vehicle for promoting new guns, having the competitors shoot the latest and greatest from XYZ Gun Makers, Inc. and ACME Firearms. That has potential for real revenue, but also might have trouble in lawyer land.
How else can the producers of Top Shot ensure variety? I'm sure some THR-ers could design some appropriate challenges.
DAP90
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I’m more than willing to watch some primitive weapons once a season. I was even OK with the slingshot last season; but throwing rocks is just sad. I know it’s technically a primitive weapon but really, that’s the best they can do? As someone else mentioned above there’s still spears, atlatls, boomerangs, bolas, slings and probably others a little research would reveal.
I’d like to see a team challenge that used smoothbore muskets and the whole team in volley fire.
I’d like to see a team challenge that used smoothbore muskets and the whole team in volley fire.
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Arkansas Paul
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Like HOOfan said, the show is called "Top Shot". Nothing was shot during this weeks show until the elimination round. Thank God for DVRs. I fast forwarded the stupid stuff, which was the entire competition IMO, and went to the elimination round. Now that gun was cool. I really wanted someone else to go home though. I really liked him.
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