Top Shot (Season 4)

[al123]

While primitive weapons are interesting, for me firearms are just more fun. It looked like a fun competition though.

For me, the best Top Guns episodes combined great firearms with some good informal competition. The carbine/M14/mosin episode followed by the one with automatic rifles e.g. BAR were the most enjoyable.

In the shotguns and pistols episodes, the guests didn't directly compete so it wasn't quite as fun.

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

The thing about Chris is that he doesn't have the training credentials of the other members, but it also seems that they have more respect for his skills than members had for Jay Lim in season 2

Thats because Jay was a cocky little butthead with a "I know it all and you don't know squat" attitude. Jay had all those credentials but to me, his performance was sub par. Especially under pressure.

I need to watch it again because I thought Chris shouldn't have been there at all.

Deserve, no he surely did not. Am I glad he went? Yes sir I most certainly am. Glad he went and educated Tim over his poor attitude. Not sure if anyone else on that team could have handled that elimination challenge as well as he did. He started off a bit shaky but when it counted, he got it done in a BIG way.

 

[boscoru]

This episode was just a one-hour advertisement for cannons and atlatls. Way to sell out, Top Shot

 

[Madcap_Magician]

This episode was just a one-hour advertisement for cannons and atlatls. Way to sell out, Top Shot

Heh, I saw what you did there.

 

[HOOfan_1]

I am not trying to defend Tim, but I can say that bigger guys who are not use to putting up with mouthy twerps get annoyed when they run their mouth and other people down. Now you might say everyone does, but by and large mouthy twerps do not say things one on one to guys much larger than they are. So either big guys are more inclined to physically handle the situation, or they are not use to people running their mouths. Either way, that could have had an effect on why he reacted like he did.

Has nothing to do with being a "big guy" has everything to do with Tim having an ego problem and not enough maturity to handle the situation correctly. Being a big guy might contribute to his ego problems, but there are plenty of "big guys" who could easily have handled that situation better.

From the eidited clips shown on TV, there is no indication that Chris is a mouthy twerp. No one else seemed to have a problem with anything Chris said. Seems to me that several of the others, most notably Kyle, seemed to have a problem with the way Tim was handling the situation, thus they sent him to elimination even after Chee volunteered.

 

[nosmr2]

I was a fan of Tim's, but he really threw me off on Tuesday. Chris, who I don't really like, has shot well this season. He pointed out what the others did bad and what he did good and a little bad. It is what it is, he has shot well. Tim got all butt-hurt because he didn't point out his flaws or something like that. I think Tim didn't like Chris holding court and it was an alpha-male showdown that Tim could have avoided and still be in the running for $100,000. That's enough money for a house where I live. But whatever, Tim got what he wanted and ended up leaving when it was all said and done.

More Greg please.....

 

[snuffy]

While primitive weapons are interesting, for me firearms are just more fun. It looked like a fun competition though.

For me, the best Top Guns episodes combined great firearms with some good informal competition. The carbine/M14/mosin episode followed by the one with automatic rifles e.g. BAR were the most enjoyable.

The last 4-5 posts are mostly about soap opera. Or the interaction between the contestants. I understand we wouldn't have a show like this without the drama for the unwashed masses. But I'm sure NOT going to get all wound up in it.

Cut that touchy feely crap out, have more info about guns, I'd like it much better.

 

[GCBurner]

Now that they've done an atlatl, I wonder if they'll bring out the boomerangs or bolas?

 

[gathert]

Next week is trick shooting, so I hope they don't go back to human powered devices. I personally would like to see another sniper type shot, but with a little more to do than just one shot like they did when it was 400 yards and whoever could shoot it the fastest. Engaging several targets align with movers would be great.

 

[Vector]

I just thought of a question to ask you Top Shot fans.

What type of earplugs are many of the shooters wearing that look colorful, and are presumably custom fitted?

Does anyone know how expensive they are, and what the protective DB ratings are?

 

[gathert]

I have a pair and they usually run $30-40 at shooting competitions if you can find a vendor. I really like mine. They are super easy to put in and take out and block the noise plenty fine for my liking. They aren't quite as good as foam plugs, but just barely. Don't do the do it yourself kit if you find one of those in an outdoor retail place, the plugs won't turn out as well.

 

[heavydluxe]

I personally would like to see another sniper type shot, but with a little more to do than just one shot like they did when it was 400 yards and whoever could shoot it the fastest. Engaging several targets align with movers would be great.

From the opening credits, it looks like you'll get your wish - along with a guest sniper expert from a previous season...

Just started watching this season a couple days ago. We don't have cable, so I wait for the season to get rolling a little before downloading via iTunes. So far, I've really enjoyed all the episodes and challenges. I also really appreciate the contestants this year. With the exception of Littlejohn, they seem close to the level-headed camaraderie of Season 1.

 

[gathert]

I don't pay attention to the opening bits so I'll have to look for it next time. The show uses so many shots during the episode from guns they aren't shooting it bugs me so I usually record it and watch later, fast forwarding through the boring stuff.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

I usually record it and watch later, fast forwarding through the boring stuff.

Me too. I go past most of the drama and to the shooting.

 

[Dr.Rob]

Yay red team! That challenge din't look EASY to me. The pop -up paint cans? Before Dylan stepped up, Greg was sending himself. How I WISH that was Greg vs. William instead of Dylan vs. William.

I wanted Gabby to smoke that stage, but the red team proved exactly what they said. Can't beat 'em at basket ball-but all in all better shooters.

 

[mgmorden]

I wanted Gabby to smoke that stage, but the red team proved exactly what they said. Can't beat 'em at basket ball-but all in all better shooters.

Indeed. Gabby is at this point my favorite shooter.

One thing I was curious about though - on that challenge she was gripping the stock with her support hand way, way back. Just ahead of the trigger guard. This struck me as strange as I personally grip a rifle offhand much farther forward as that seems more stable.

Was this just a result of her smaller size, less experience with rifles, or is that actually a better grip in some way?

 

[Dr.Rob]

That's a target shooting style she's using her elbow on her hip as support. Look at the whole stance not just her hand.

 

[browneu]

Jay from season two used the same stance. Its better for target or bullseye shooting, not so much for shooting with movement.

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[9mmepiphany]

This struck me as strange as I personally grip a rifle offhand much farther forward as that seems more stable.

Was this just a result of her smaller size, less experience with rifles, or is that actually a better grip in some way?

It isn't just a forward grip, it is a complete position. We used to shoot using that body position during my years shooting Small Bore in high school. If you look, that is how Olympic shooter stand

1. put your forward hand under the balance point of the rifle
2. put that elbow in-line with your hip
3. lean back, at the waist, until your sights are in-line with your eye
4. tuck support elbow down into a relaxed position

This gave her a large advantage over the more traditional Rifleman's stance than Will was using...with the left arm forward and the right elbow winged out...when coping with the wind.

Most Americans shoot like you do and would ask the same questions about strength or stature. It is part of the culture of muscling a gun (knives, tools) for more control, this shooting style is based more on using the structure of your body to help you.

 

[gathert]

Used the same position in ROTC air rifle comps in high school. Its a lot more stable that it looks.

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

Gabby shot in the Olympics. That is a very stable hold for bulls-eye. All you 10-22 shooters should give it a try. It utilizes your whole body for a stable platform verses just your upper body like the way Will tried.

I don't know if it was just camera position or what, but it seemed to me that Gabby was at a slight disadvantage with her height. Looked like she only had a small part of the target visible because she is so "vertically challenged". If you go back and look at the "behind the shooter" shots when she was up, you will see what I mean. The bottles looked to be right at the same height as her eyes. I'll see if I can freeze and screen shoot in the spot that I am talking about and post.

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

Well I went through the hassle of screen shooting it BUT, I can't load it on here because photobucket wont store .rtf format. I don't have a converter that works. Anyone here know how to convert a file from .rtf to .jpg/jpeg? Buzz me in PM with your email and I'll send the document.

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

Thankyou to mgmorden for converting this.




As you can see, she seems WAY below the target plane. Kind of a little unfair in my point of view.

 

[gathert]

The camera is looking a slight downward angle so that makes it look worse. I'm guess they could only see about 2 inches of the bottle opener vertically anyway, if that.

 

[9mmepiphany]

Looks like camera angle to me too