Topless Protest From Moms Demand Action

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protests of most kinds involved having to get attention. going topless might well attract some attention to the protest.

I just don't care if they want to walk around topless or not. Much as I do not care much if people walk around with their long guns.

Both sides are begging for attention, and neither side seems to be getting all that much. maybe people are just too jaded these days for it to matter.
 
The thing just got on mainstream TV and they're making fun of the over the topless counter protest.
 
Using sex to sell this particular message seems to me to be pretty counterproductive. They are now cheaply trying to appeal to a demographic (younger men)....who are more likely to be pro gun. Meanwhile, they are risking losing a good amount of the support they DO have from women who are not pro gun or approving of public displays of nudity.

Now if only the current over-the-top OC demonstrations were wholly conducted in a positive manner, or the energy spent in making real traction through legislative means, the pro-2a would have a solid win in the public eye in this kind of situation
 
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I don't care about the topless tactic by unattractive women. But obscenities and racial slurs screamed in front of children is inexcusable. I hope it makes their protest even less effective. These women are a disturbing reminder of the "cheerleaders" in the south in 1960. These were middle-aged white women who regularly showed up to scream at little black kids being escorted to school by U.S. marshalls. It was disgusting then and is no better now.

It is a measure of their desperation and weak arguments that they resort to this.
 
Yeah, this kind of behavior will do wonders towards getting people to see their side of the gun argument. Keep it up-- a few more demonstrations like this and we will have the vast majority looking at us and agreeing that we make a sane, reasonable argument for 2A rights.

Austin is, and has been for years, a strange city. I can say that, since I'm from Austin. The old Austin, not the current mess. :rolleyes: Liberal doesn't even come close to describing Austin.
 
Whether or not you think their form of protest if effective, you have to admit that it's an attention getter. I posted this less than 11 hours ago an already there is 1,200+ views with 42 responses. That's just our website. This is being talked about more places than just here. I believe someone said it's hit mainstream television, I'm assuming they meant National TV.

The headline certainly is an attention grabber. Those males that are sitting on the fence are once again pulled into the fray. I hope the majority of us continue to use our heads to advance our cause.
 
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I don't care about the topless tactic by unattractive women. But obscenities and racial slurs screamed in front of children is inexcusable. I hope it makes their protest even less effective. These women are a disturbing reminder of the "cheerleaders" in the south in 1960. These were middle-aged white women who regularly showed up to scream at little black kids being escorted to school by U.S. marshalls. It was disgusting then and is no better now.

It is a measure of their desperation and weak arguments that they resort to this.
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I agree. I think they may lose some fanbase over this just due to the nudity.

Most of the antigunners I've encountered don't seem to have a problem provoking total strangers and using foul language in front of little ones. They probably lost a few fence-sitters with those actions...
 
As has been mentioned, this shows that their mainstream way of putting out their message is failing. "sex sells" is an old standby but in this case it proves that desperate people do desperate things. This is a victory for the pro-gun people. It shows the protesters have nothing left to bare.
 
Uh...would it be better somehow if the ladies who are working to oppose us were ones you found very attractive?


Seriously, picking on these gals because you don't think they're hot seems a bit low road. Might be inevitable that some are going to point that out, but we don't have to go there.
 
I'm just saying that their strategy would be more effective if they didn't look like Mimi from the Drew Carrey Show. I just think it's a seriously ridiculous attempt to gain attention at any cost regardless of their affiliation. I also feel the same about PETA.
 
Ok, maybe. I don't know. I'm not sure I see it as a straight up sexual appeal thing. Maybe if they were hiring models that MIGHT be it, but I think their aims are different.

I don't think that most women would think this is just the most logical way to sway people to their cause. (Maybe how to sway one guy to do something, but not society as a whole.) Seems like maybe they're muddying their several issues together.

(There are some women whose goals include changing indecency laws to allow women to go barechested for various reasons, sometimes to include breastfeeding rights and such. I don't know if these same ladies are into that movement as well, but it wouldn't be a surprise.)

In the end I think it's just confusing and odd to most folks. Sort of like riding your unicycle to work to protest the injustices perpetrated against the Welsh. :confused:
 
I'm with sam1911. It doesn't matter what they look like. What matters, is that these women's antics, in and of themselves, are "low road". They will get what they want, bad press. But, I suspect that they view bad press, as being better than no press.

I respect others' right to disagree with me, and even to be flat-out, anti-firearm. I merely ask in return, that they give me equal respect. Those depicted here, have failed in that expectation, and that speaks volumes of their lack of character, and lack of integrity. I live my life by five guiding tenets: courtesy, integrity, perseverance, self-control and indomitable spirit. As such, I shall refrain from any attacks on their character, and allow that their own actions speak for that same.

Geno
 
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udderly ridiculous
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Udders.... I see what you did there.

This stunt does nothing to sway my opinion one way or the other on guns, but I do know some fence sitting women who would be/ are completely turned off by MDA for this.

If the message you are trying to sell can't sell itself on its own merit, the addition of geriatric mammaries won't help. This is more of a misguided 'breast cancer awareness' stunt than a 'guns-are-bad-mmmmkay'stunt. But bottom line, it is a stunt, not an effective sales pitch.
 
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Udders.... I see what you did there.

This stunt does nothing to sway my opinion one way or the other on guns, but I do know some fence sitting women who would be/ are completely turned off by MDA for this.

If the message you are trying to sell can't sell itself on its own merit, the addition of geriatric mammaries won't help. This is more of a misguided 'breast cancer awareness' stunt than a 'guns-are-bad-mmmmkay'stunt. But bottom line, it is a stunt, not an effective sales pitch.
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At least for breast cancer it would be relevant.
 
Relevance of the amount of dress does not matter. What matters is that a very small group of people made national news protesting something they didn't like and have managed to get out their message.

We can talk all we want about how we don't think the tactic is effective, how they have a lack of morals, lack of education, or are desperate, and make the unsettling off color comments, but the point still remains that they scored media attention for their cause and we are left twiddling out thumbs talking about how we are better than they are (supposedly).
 
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