Torturing the Glock 19 and Sig Sauer p226

[S&W-Keeper]

I like it.

 

[Bovice]

I bet your 226's frame rails hate you after that.

 

[miles1]

I would never...ever..do that to one of my firearms.

 

[22250Rem]

Me neither... never, ever with any gun of mine. But I find torture tests kind of interesting. But those are usually some gun writer type torturing a gun he doesn't own and doing a big story on it. If I were ever in a situation where I absolutely HAD to fire one of my guns that dirty I would fire it. Not because I WANTED to but only 'cause I HAD to.

 

[Jaywalker]

"Torture," IMO, would alter them or destroy them permanently; these tests did not do that. With a good cleaning, they'll be as good as they ever were.

For someone who was exposed to the 1980's military pistol tests (the Beretta went 2,000 mean rounds between failures) which had pistols immersed in mud, it's good to see just how far today's pistols will go - not too far.

It's good info, and they are his pistols. I appreciate both the effort and the info.

 

[okiewita40]

And the OP figured out why you don't put grease inside of a pistol. It will hold onto every bit of gunk that gets inside of the gun. I think this is where reading and owners manual and following the proper lubrication procedures pays off.

I know for a fact that you are not supposed to use grease in a glock. Can't say about the sig as I have never handled one.

 

[ku4hx]

I will never understand this internet phenomenon of taking expensive firearms and trying to break them with "torture tests". I guess I was just raised to take care of things - especially expensive items like guns. To this day, I still treat them well, because you never know when you might need to use one, and you certainly don't want it compromised due to a previous amateur "torture test".

Anyway, getting off the soapbox now.

I just read what others have done. No sense in doing it to any of mine since you can find these events all over the internet.

But, I've also seen analogous stores for Ipads, iPhones and all sorts of electronic gadgets. Whatever the item is, I just want it to work for me, I don't care of they work in an Alligator's stomach or some such.

 

[Mainsail]

It might be a more practical torture test if you use our normal conditions, as in the 26 years I've been regularly carrying a handgun I have yet to get one muddy or gritty.

Leave it loaded for months on end, cover it with dryer lint, deodorant flakes, dust, and bits of french-fries, and then shoot them.

 

[HOOfan_1]

Glocks come with anti-seize grease right from the factory. The manual says to leave it on, shoot it with that grease and when it is gone, don't replace it. As for the guns being the same after cleaning it....I kind of doubt it, like I said earlier, that sand likely had quartz in it, quartz is harder than 7075 aluminum and harder than some steel. There was more than likely some scratching going on.

 

[RmB]

As for the guns being the same after cleaning it....I kind of doubt it, like I said earlier, that sand likely had quartz in it, quartz is harder than 7075 aluminum and harder than some steel. There was more than likely some scratching going on.

Went out and shot 200 rounds this weekend. About 5 mags through the Glock and the rest through the Sig. No issues, just as I predicted and hoped.
... And no cosmetic damage, not that I care too much about that
Used oil to lubricate.

 

[stressed]

Anyone tested the glock without lubricating it, to see how many round it would fire until it fails due to no lubrication? I would be far more interested in a test like this then one of dirt.

I remember inspecting a captured AKM in Iraq, and the "lube" had a familiar smell.. had the terp ask the haji what was in it, to which he replied "motor oil". Genius in a way. How do you lube your firearms in a desert with nothing but black gold under your feet? Freshly refined oil. "10-30w" worked excellently in those weapons.

How do you lube a weapon when you have no means to in a SHTF scenario? Most will run out of gun oil far before ammo after numerous cleanings.

 

[sixgunner455]

I remember inspecting a captured AKM in Iraq, and the "lube" had a familiar smell.. had the terp ask the haji what was in it, to which he replied "motor oil". Genius in a way. How do you lube your firearms in a desert with nothing but black gold under your feet? Freshly refined oil. "10-30w" worked excellently in those weapons.

How do you lube a weapon when you have no means to in a SHTF scenario? Most will run out of gun oil far before ammo after numerous cleanings.

How much oil does it take to lube a gun? ON a pistol, you put a little on the rails and the barrel, and pretty much keep the rest of it clean and dry. You can probably get enough off the dipstick of the nearest car or truck to keep it running.

 

[HOOfan_1]

Went out and shot 200 rounds this weekend. About 5 mags through the Glock and the rest through the Sig. No issues, just as I predicted and hoped.

Used oil to lubricate.

Just cause they ran fine, doesn't mean there was no damage done. That damage might only be cosmetic, and if you are fine with that, it doesn't matter.

All the same "once you clean them up, they are as good as they ever were" is more than likely not the case.

 

[MaterDei]

I don't understand all the criticism here. Just because you wouldn't do it to one of your guns, who are you to criticize others for how they treat their own property? His question was not "What do you think about what I've done and would you do this too?".

He did this because he thought it would be interesting and fun, more power to him.

 

[ku4hx]

I don't understand all the criticism here. Just because you wouldn't do it to one of your guns, who are you to criticize others for how they treat their own property? His question was not "What do you think about what I've done and would you do this too?".

He did this because he thought it would be interesting and fun, more power to him.

Exactly! Let him do it and I'll just read about it. Win-win all around.

 

[Outlaw Man]

Torture? Put them in the Iron Maiden or boil them in oil and tell me what happens.



It was an interesting read.

 

[Jaywalker]

Moving away from the agenda of criticizing an owner for doing what he wants with his own firearms, I'd like to comment on the use of motor oil as a lubricant... My father in law tells of lubing his BAR with motor oil and having it go "clunk" in the cold instead of "bang!" Of course, that was before multi-viscosity motor oil, but it's still something to think about.

AR-type firearms like to be run wet, but if all I were doing was lightly lubing handguns, I expect I have a multi-generational supply - it doesn't take much, and less is better than more.