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toughest 9mm?

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WOW...I have to try a glock I guess! I just have to get past the UGLY thing becasue my idea of a beautiful pistol is a BHP! thanks for all the replies!
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Unfortunately (despite someone's posting), the 9mm BHP is about the worst gun to go with, for durability. They'll often crack the frame around the 35,000 round mark. I don't even wanna think about how fast the .40 S&W ones break.

9mm Glocks, on the other hand, the first thing to wear out (not counting springs and small parts) is usually the slide, after several hundred thousand rounds (though .40 S&W Glocks usually wear out the slide around 30,000 to 40,000 rounds). You'd think the plastic part would wear out first, but no, it's the slide, the heaviest and most durable looking part of the gun!
 
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RyanM:

In your post regarding durable 9MMs, you stated that, "...he 9mm BHP is about the worst gun to go with, for durability. They'll often crack the frame around the 35,000 round mark. I don't even wanna think about how fast the .40 S&W ones break."

Do you have any data sources to support this? It seems like a very low number of rounds. I do have one, but have far, far fewer rounds than that through mine. I would appreciate any links to testing data that you can provide.

Thanks,

Doc2005
 
Glock 17/19
Springfield XD
CZ75 - I'm not a fan of the newer CZ pistols. Had a CZ100 and it handled like a dream....just didn't feel "right" though.
 
I would have to say that any of the big name in gun manufacturers will work.

Glock, HK, SIG, Beretta, S&W, Browning, etc. will work fine. Just because one person had a bad experience does not mean you will.

In the end I think it really is up to the individual gun. Most have a reputation for reliability. If there was one gun that was better than the rest I think the majority of PDs would use it. I know Glock has the lock on that but I suspect price and Glocks marketing department have a lot to do with that. Glocks are fine guns though.

Most guns have proved themselves numerous times. So dont really worry about it. Just choose the one that works best for you.
 
Glock, HK, SIG, Beretta, S&W, Browning, etc. will work fine. Just because one person had a bad experience does not mean you will.
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Military service experience suggests that Beretta M9 and Browning Hi-Power have significantly lower life expectancy than Colt M1911, Glock G17/19, or SIG P210.
If there was one gun that was better than the rest I think the majority of PDs would use it.
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Most police departments outside of Switzerland and Denmark ruled out the use of SIG P210 out of budgetary concerns. Many U.S. police departments forbid the use of SA handguns such as M1911 for perceived safety reasons. Being better than the rest seldom suffices for popularity.
 
From an older era, I'd think that the Lahti (Fin and Swede) and the Polish Radom would be hella stout 9mm handguns, since they shoot that itty bitty .355" bullet from such formidable platforms.

But you don't hear much about them anymore. Parts might be hard to gather in case something DID go south on ya as well.

Certainly worthy of including in a conversation about tough 9's tho'. So I did. I guess lotsa young'uns don't know much about them. Good lookin pistols too.
 
"you can melt a Glock down and it still works!"

I sure am impressed.
Glocks are awesome pistols. The grip angle is all wrong, they are much thicker than they should be, and they are not pretty. But you can melt one down to a glob of smoking plastic and steel, and it will still shoot perfectly. REALLY! :rolleyes:
 
From an older era, I'd think that the Lahti (Fin and Swede) and the Polish Radom would be hella stout 9mm handguns, since they shoot that itty bitty .355" bullet from such formidable platforms.
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The Finnish Lahti L35 is subject to rapid wear in temperate climes owing to the operation of its bolt accelerator, meant to ensure proper cycling of its action when ammunition pressures have been diminished and lubricants have been congealed by Arctic temperatures. The Swedish Husqvarna M40 is additionally compromised by inadequate metallurgy. Generally speaking, practical experience gives rise to more reliable measures of mechanical performance than does abstract contemplation of dimensions and designs.
 
I am telling you, a Russian or East German Makarov would be the way to go. I have put mine through about 3,000 rounds and not a hickup. I have used anywhere from Wolf to Hornady to noname and it shot all of them quite well with no jams or misfires. It is also quite easy to detail strip, if I am correct I think it is only about 27 parts total. The best $230 I have ever spent.
 
TA_Raider I would also add the Bulgarian Mak to the list. Their finish is not on par with the russian/east german...but I think they still go BANG everytime the trigger is pulled:evil:

I think that can also be extrapolated to most EX-Com block weapons (SKS' AK's and Mosin-Nagant's)...not much to look at but cheap and VERY VERY tough!
 
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