Training program to read facial expressions

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Not sure how many of you are regular New Yorker readers, so...

A guy named Paul Elkman has created a training program to help teach you how to read people's facial expressions -- the unconscious facial expressions we make instinctively, before we can mask our emotions.

Here's the guy's webpage:

http://www.emotionsrevealed.com/training_cds.php

The CD runs $50, but I think it's really worth it. (I don't work for him and derive no income whatsoever from any sales he makes -- only the satisfaction of knowing that my armed comrades can read people better.)

Now, on to a brief discussion of the great 2003 New Yorker article by Malcolm Gladwell:

Starts out by talking about a policeman who, during an encounter with a disturbed young man with a gun, didn't shoot him -- even though the officer was perfectly within his rights. Why not? The officer said he could tell the boy wasn't really dangerous.

Fast forward to the end of the article: The same policeman, sitting in the passenger side of a cruiser. A man in a trenchcoat walks toward the vehicle. The officer leans over his partner in the driver's seat, unholsters his pistol and shoots the man in the trenchcoat. No obvious weapons -- why did the officer shoot? He could see from the man's face that he was dangerous.

Turns out the guy in the trenchcoat had a homemade flamethrower under there and he'd just murdered a few people.

The moral of the story is -- once you learn to read these micro-facial expressions, you can vastly improve your analysis of a situation and an individual's threat potential.

Boy, are my fingers tired.



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I hate to be skeptical but.....

Starts out by talking about a policeman who, during an encounter with a disturbed young man with a gun, didn't shoot him -- even though the officer was perfectly within his rights. Why not? The officer said he could tell the boy wasn't really dangerous.

I know of quite a few people who've been injured because they believed things like that. I guess he didn't sense a disturbance in the force around this one :rolleyes: .

Fast forward to the end of the article: The same policeman, sitting in the passenger side of a cruiser. A man in a trenchcoat walks toward the vehicle. The officer leans over his partner in the driver's seat, unholsters his pistol and shoots the man in the trenchcoat. No obvious weapons -- why did the officer shoot? He could see from the man's face that he was dangerous.

Turns out the guy in the trenchcoat had a homemade flamethrower under there and he'd just murdered a few people.

I'd like to see a news article or some indepenent verification of this. I bet his ability to read mico-expressions stood him and his department well in the inevitable wrongful death suit. :what:

What state did this happen in? Where I work and where all the cops I've ever trained with from all over the country work, we're not allowed to just shoot somebody because they looked dangerous. :uhoh:

I checked the Illinois Revised Statutes and we're not able to shoot people with home made flame throwers under their coats...even if they have just murdered a few people :scrutiny: . Illinois makes us wait until they actually act out their threat. And they are pretty specific about only the Department of Corrections conducting executions. Are you sure this isn't part of the plot of a science fiction movie?:confused:

Jeff
 
Which would you prefer in the Oval Office: decorated war veteran or AWOL recovering alcoholic?

The second. The first is not proved or was the second allegation.

And relying on peoples facial expressions to determine if your going to shoot them is a sure way to get a trip to the big house.
 
I have some examples of facial expressions

:) Happy
:mad: mad
:fire: really mad
:what: suprised
:( sad
:barf: Just got back from a party

Jk jk I don't think its a bad idea to learn to read expressions. You are not going to learn enough to use force but it will give you a warning.
 
Pretty cool!

An acquaintance of mine told me about some training he had received in either the 1970's or early 1980's while in the service of our government that covered this EXACT thing. Pretty neat because he was using the same language as this Elkman guy uses on his web site. I see in his bio that he worked FOR the government at one point in time, too. Seems like maybe the guy that I know might have benefitted from this training a long time ago.

It looked like the same sort of thing, too, though adjusted for the level of technology available back then. He said that it was a lot of slides of facial expressions shown in decreasing amounts of time until they would be shown so quickly that it would hardly register consciously. The CD says that it will train you in an hour, though, which is difficult to believe. This acquaintance of mine said that his training in recognizing microexpressions and body language took the better part of a month, though it WAS mingled in with other stuff.
 
I saw a guy smile just before he made his move on me once. He was trying to camoflage his intent and throw me offguard.

Telegraphing your actions with any kind of facial expression is stupid and can lead to defeat. That's why most people try to hide it. Concentrating on the eyes works for me but it doesn't leave much reaction time.

My preferred mode is a resolved poker face. They can't read my face but there's no mistaking what's in my eyes. Many have backed down without a fight when I stood my ground.

Good trick turning money into instinct. I can buy more?
 
Ryder, a "poker face" isn't absolute. The microexpressions referenced on the web site aren't about intentional facial expressions but are about the "tells" that everyone has.

I've gotta get in contact with the acquaintance that I referenced and pump him for more information on this. He's really quite adept at reading people and attributes it to the training that he had years ago and his experience honing it since. He's actually made reference to wanting to train people in the methods in which he was trained but didn't think that the resources were available. I'll have to contact him with this information.
 
Link to the actual article!

http://www.gladwell.com/2002/2002_08_05_a_face.htm

Here's a link to the actual article that appeared in The New Yorker. It's very well written and, I think, super interesting.

Please consider reading it before deciding that this whole face-reading program is just a gimmick.

Best,
George

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FWIW

its EKman, and he's the real deal, highly thought of in the field. I dont know where the shooting story comes from, cause I doubt he'd teach something like that. Always wanted to take one of his classes.....
 
But at the time all Harms had was a hunch, a sense from the situation and the man's behavior and what he glimpsed inside the man's coat and on the man's face—
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That’s a bit more than dusting someone by the way his or her facial expressions are. Included in this is the whole picture, body language, situation, demeanor and what was under his coat .

I think the training on this is difficult and imprecise. If this were a paramedic protocol it would never be instituted and both deal with life and death. Nope, I don’t think LEO need more unsubstantiated shooting to add to the fodder. What I do think though is it is a good tool and as such should be used with caution and could possibly save your life. I wouldn't bet a life on it.
 
If one of these expert "face readers" wins the World Series of Poker Tournament a time or two, I'll be sold on the idea.;)
 
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