Triton 165gr JHP load data???

[LiquidTension]

I picked up some Triton 165gr JHP bullets at the show this weekend because I thought they'd be fun. Now I can't find any load data for them Guess I shoulda researched it before hand! I have Bullseye and HP-38 at hand. Has anybody loaded these before???

 

[JohnK]

I haven't tried them yet (haven't seen any) but I would start with the data for a 185gr bullet and work up from there.

Hodgdon recommends 5.0 to 5.9 gr of HP38 with a 185gr JSWC and 1.195" OAL, since HP38 is what you have I'd start there. I would try to get some HS6 or Universal, and load them up to around 1,100 - 1,150 fps, but that's just me.

 

[LiquidTension]

This will be my first batch of reloaded rounds ever, so I don't wanna just *guess* about the amount of powder....

 

[Mal H]

You mean how we sorta have to *guess* about the caliber?

(.357, .40/10mm, .45 ...)

 

[LiquidTension]

DOH!

Yeah I guess that little bit of info would be useful, wouldn't it?

They are for .45acp. Maybe now someone can figure out the puzzle, eh?

 

[LiquidTension]

Nobody has any idea?

 

[Mal H]

What I would do is use data for Win 231 powder. W231 and HP-38 are essentially the same powder - come from same company (St Marks Powder, formerly Primex) and delivered to Winchester and Hodgdon for them to package and sell. W231 data is much more common in the manuals than HP-38.

Important - always back off 10% when changing any component.

It is an accepted practice to use load data for the next higher weight bullet of the same type (jacketed vs jacketed, lead vs lead, etc.) That is, as long as the next higher weight is within a reasonable range. Therefore, using Speer data for their jacketed 185 gr Gold Dot and W231 and allowing for a 10% decrease the min/max load would be 5.9 to 6.6 grains of HP-38.

That's where I would start. You can most likely go a little higher in powder weight, but only in increments looking for any signs of excessive pressure along the way.

You can use the same procedure with Bullseye, but in my book, W231/HP-38 are a little more forgiving of going overboard than is the faster rated Bullseye.

 

[LiquidTension]

Thanks, Mal

 

[FCoelho]

Alliant Power Pistol will work well with the 165 grain JHP from Triton. So will Winchester Action Pistol. Overall length should be between 1.200" and 1.210" using a heavy crimp.

The factory loads from Triton used SMP 224 from St. Marks Powder. If you can get your hands on some of that, then two good charges would be 9.2 grains and 10 grains. Factory loads used a Federal 150 primer and brass made for Triton by Federal.

There were two factory loadings using that bullet, the Lite and the +P. The Lite was 1,100 fps from a five inch barrel and the +P was good for 1,250 fps. The Lite load was developed for short barrels, like an Officer's model or even shorter. From an AMT Backup we would still get excellent expansion with that bullet.

Hope the info helps.

 

[John Galt]

Anyone know where to buy some of those bullets?
I never could find the loaded cartridges and could load my own.
As far as "magic bullets" I think they are pretty cool.

Oh, you never mentioned which Triton bullets.
I want the Quick-Shock fragmenting bullets.
Their HP was also pretty good, but many competitors.