Russ Jackson
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I am sure there are 1000 Rugers to every Taurus. The Ruger Universe is larger....Russ
trying to choose: Ruger Redhawk or Taurus Raging Bull which one is a better buy ?
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There's a GOOD reason for some things! Must be Halftime , Still 25 to 2
bigdave101
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love my redhawk.... 5in.,.44mag.... always ready....
Lucky Derby
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Ruger.
I currently own four Ruger firearms. A SP101 is on my hip right now. I have owned several others and sold them. Not because of any problems, but either due to financial need, or other firearm wants. I have owned one Taurus, a .44 special. I admit that I regret selling it.
While working at a range, I saw more problems with Taurus than with any other brand. Once saw a brand new PT92 with a broken firing pin. That is right, brand new never fired, right out of the box. I have seen a new .38 Taurus revolver (M82?) that would not chamber ammo in two out of six chambers.
I have delt with Taurus CS, (for my customers) and can say that the discription above is accurate. I have never had to deal with Ruger CS, but know a couple of people who have. They had a good experience. This has been echoed by many on the internet.
I will admit that the Taurus 85 that my mother had (it was stolen from her)was a decent little snubbie.
Also, why do you think that having holes in the top barrel is such a great thing? It's the last thing I want. I do not need, nor want flames coming up into my sight picture. Honestly if Taurus made a quality product, I still would be very unlikely to purchase one due to the porting on most current revolvers.
I currently own four Ruger firearms. A SP101 is on my hip right now. I have owned several others and sold them. Not because of any problems, but either due to financial need, or other firearm wants. I have owned one Taurus, a .44 special. I admit that I regret selling it.
While working at a range, I saw more problems with Taurus than with any other brand. Once saw a brand new PT92 with a broken firing pin. That is right, brand new never fired, right out of the box. I have seen a new .38 Taurus revolver (M82?) that would not chamber ammo in two out of six chambers.
I have delt with Taurus CS, (for my customers) and can say that the discription above is accurate. I have never had to deal with Ruger CS, but know a couple of people who have. They had a good experience. This has been echoed by many on the internet.
I will admit that the Taurus 85 that my mother had (it was stolen from her)was a decent little snubbie.
Also, why do you think that having holes in the top barrel is such a great thing? It's the last thing I want. I do not need, nor want flames coming up into my sight picture. Honestly if Taurus made a quality product, I still would be very unlikely to purchase one due to the porting on most current revolvers.
duck911
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I own a Taurus in .357 and after ironing out some issues it is a very reliable and good looking gun. It's accurate as hell and has a great trigger. Conversely, My buddy has a Taurus that I won't touch because it's such a POS that I feel it's dangerous. It's a little bit of a crap shoot but on a budget I think Taurus can make a decent gun. I found a winner.
I also have a Ruger Redhawk in 44 Mag. This gun I trust my life to. It is built like a TANK...
For my money I'd stick with Ruger.
--Duck911
I also have a Ruger Redhawk in 44 Mag. This gun I trust my life to. It is built like a TANK...
For my money I'd stick with Ruger.
--Duck911
sebtool
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I own several Rugers, 1 Taurus. The Rugers ALL shoot, and accurately. Every 1 is stone cold reliable. The 1 Taurus is an older .38 (82?) that decided that the cylinder wasn't supposed to lock up after the 2nd cylinder full of target grade .38s I put thru it. After trying to deal with Taurus' so called customer service, it's been relegated to a junk drawer, until I take the time to figure out the problem, then buy the parts and fix it myself. Taurus' customer service's solution was to send it to them on my dime (FedEx overnight, about $60) them send them another $100, and they'd replace it with a model 85. At which point I'd have more in it than I could have bought a new 1 from my LGS to start with!
I've been a machinist since '77, had my own shop for 10 yrs. I know quality machining, fit and finish.
Make my vote Ruger.
I've been a machinist since '77, had my own shop for 10 yrs. I know quality machining, fit and finish.
Make my vote Ruger.
.338Sako
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I have owned both a Ruger Redhawk and Super Redhawk, great guns.
Buy Ruger...
Buy Ruger...
aHFo3
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I'm interested in hearing that story. Have you shared it on here yet?
Sam1911
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Now that I'll certainly agree with. I can't stand handgun porting, and having that on something as relatively tame as a .44 would be a disqualifier for me.
Seems like another point to the Ruger.
Without any doubt! The Taurus Raging series has kind of a moderistic interpretation of sort of Python-esque barrel rib combined with that strange barrel profile and Huffy bicycle-looking grips. (No revolver, except a Python, or maybe a Dan Wesson, should wear that vent rib... it's only "ok" because its a Python. Kind of like only Nixon could go to China.)
Uh, we're talking about REVOLVERS here. The entire concept is "dated." And that's a good thing. The Ruger Redhawk manages to hold the classic lines while still being a tough relatively modern design.
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I keeed, I keeed!
hardluk1
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I have owned a taurus for 26 years and carried it for 20+ years. I feel with that mine no sw j frame could be smoother ,fit better or shoot as mayt rounds and have no problems. BUT between taurus and ruger in big bores used as a working revolver not a safe queen I would buy the ruger 10 to 1 . If for no other reason if you have any issues, ruger CS is far better and ruger has a loooong track record of strong well made firearms. Unlike todays taurus.
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I own a Redhawk, blued .41 magnum, and a Super Redhawk in 454 Casull.
I wouldn't trade either of them for any ten 10 Taurus guns.
I wouldn't trade either of them for any ten 10 Taurus guns.
Russ Jackson
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A bunch of guys reviewing a gun they have no experience with. Even the Moderator hates a gun he has never shot. Got to try new things every once in a while. If you can get a Ruger guy to actually try something new or different he might actually find it superior. I find the same thing with Harley riders if you ever do get them on a a different brand the never go back. Put the Ruger down pick up a Raging Bull next time you go to the range and give it a try. Don't shoot the messenger. I never slammed the Ruger its a great long-term tested gun. Its history and following speak for itself. Heck look at the passion right here in this subject. All I said was its a great looking gun with some extras that are not on the Ruger at a much lower price and should be given a shot prior to purchasing one. Anybody that buys a hand held cannon should at least try one first. You might like the grip better or the recoil. Personally I like the look of the Taurus better but thats me. I own a 629 and my Dad owns Model 57 41 mag. I have shot many Super Redhawks. I have shot the Raging Bull side by side with the Redhawk. I guess its like trying to get some people to try a new food. It just won't happen and there already making a face before it hits the mouth. My Dad hates Rock and Roll my wife hates rap my Daughter wont eat Sushi and My Best Friend won't ride my Sport Touring Motorcycle.
Sam1911
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What? I've shot Tauruses. In fact, I'd shot a Taurus revolver about a decade before I ever shot an S&W. I've not fired a Raging Bull, but I've handled/inspected them and have formulated certain opinions.
At any rate, I DO NOT hate them, and think they are often perfectly suitable choices. I just would not pick one given the choices presented HERE.
Seriously? You think most "Ruger guys" like them because they haven't been exposed to Taurus producs? That seems unlikely. They aren't exactly hard to find these days.
+1 Ruger
I have a few Ruger’s that are 20+ years old. I never needed any service on them so that’s a moot point with me. I've fired Taurus handguns, a 357 (don’t remember the model) and a 454 bull. Outside of being just plain ugly they where ok, nothing I would put in my safe though. As previously stated I wouldn’t trade two Taurus for one Ruger.
I have a few Ruger’s that are 20+ years old. I never needed any service on them so that’s a moot point with me. I've fired Taurus handguns, a 357 (don’t remember the model) and a 454 bull. Outside of being just plain ugly they where ok, nothing I would put in my safe though. As previously stated I wouldn’t trade two Taurus for one Ruger.
Russ Jackson
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So once you've shot one Taurus you have shot them all? J frame Smith is the same as a K or an N? All 1911s shoot the same from a Wilson to a Llama. Give one a shot with an open mind and give an honest report. I love the grip, think it looks great, I like porting and the vent rib. I always loved the Python and the old Dan Wessons. Its also a gun you wouldn't mind in the field if you were worried about surface or holster wear. The price makes it a great shooter. I would use it as a hunting or side arm. But as with any gun I would put it through a reliability test of many rounds. All companies put out bad guns now and then. You can find bad experiences with all manufactures. IN MY EXPERIENCE customer service problems can usually be handled with calm manner and working your way up the feeding chart. Once they don't deliver on your expectations get away from the hourly guy on the phone and talk to a decision maker. I have some guns that have to be cleaned every 250 rounds and others that shoot better the dirtier they get. Kimber 1911's get slammed all the time by people. Mine is the most reliable 1911 I have ever owned. I stopped counting rounds many 1000's ago.If someone I believe tells me to try something I am always willing to give it a shot. The experiences and adventures I have had that were recommended are countless and most of them proved well worth while. That Chippa Rhino is pretty ugly but I would really like to shoot one.
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Score is now Ruger 34 / Taurus 3. Russ, are you still beating this comatose horse? How come no one has tried to change YOUR mind or suggested that YOUR opinion is mistaken (except perhaps me & Sam1911 because you seemed to have called-us-out). You're completely welcome to your opinion AND your Raging Bull. But it's pretty clear from this little poll that the REASON a bunch of bigbore DA shooters aren't interested in "trying new food" (buying/shooting a Raging Bull) is because the last time they ate the food from that restaurant (Taurus)...they THREW-UP (had a dreadful experience). It's MUCH easier to get someone to try something the first time, than to try & convince them that their first unpleasant experience wasn't what REALLY HAPPENED. Heck buddy, I tried TWICE to enjoy Taurus products. I threw-up both times. Both cost me money, time & much irritation. If Ruger had caused you the same "food poisoning", I'll bet you wouldn't be so anxious to "try new food" either!
Sam1911
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Again, WHAT? I didn't say I'd shot ONLY one.
And this is no more legitimate than someone claiming you have to have shot EVERY one to have an informed opinion.
The guy asked which is a better gun buy. My opinion is the Ruger, based on my experience shooting and my observations in handling them both.
I suppose if I'd have loaded a round into the last Raging Bull I handled and actually fired it, the veil would have been lifted and I'd now see the wide world of guns in a whole different light. Perhaps that is so. But I didn't fire that fateful round, so my opinion stands.
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I guess this is where you and I will never see eye to eye. Personally I do not think you can give an opinion on something you have not tried. Apples to Apples. You can give your opinion on the one you have tried. But then you have nothing to compare it to. Telling your experiences about the Super Redhawk is acceptable. If you knew someone who had a problem or success with the Raging Bull it would be helpful to the original poster. Blatant slamming of a gun you have never shot it not only unfair but unproductive. The poster did not ask about Customer Service or to see someones unrelated pictures of Ruger Handguns(nice collection by the way). I assume he wanted to hear about personal experiences of the two handguns. I have shot both and reviewed both of them admirably. Others took me to task and disregarded my findings with an attack at Taurus even claiming I was an employee. The Ruger speaks for itself with it long tenure in its particular field. The new guy (Raging Bull) is trying to establish itself against it. It will never do so by offering a clone of the Redhawk. It must add something new/different. Maybe in looks,porting,accuracy,price,hand feel, recoil, in order to compete against the benchmark for the past four decades in 44 caliber long barrel double action revolvers.
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I have 3 Redhawks,357,44 and 45 colt of the 3 the 357 mag is probably 20 + years old and the only part that has ever broken is the hook on the hammer that connects to the main spring. I've had several break,called Ruger and had the part a few days later. 10 mins and a small nail and were back in business
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Oh. I did not realize that it was impossible or illegitimate for one to make a choice between to options based on experiences with similar but not identical options. That one could not make an aesthetic judgment without having fired a weapon, could not make a choice between two manufacturers with whom you have direct experience based on those experiences, could not weigh options based on reputation of those manufacturers, could not weigh the benefits or detriments of specific features of an item unless you've used those features as presented on that specific item...
I make those kinds of decisions every day. I don't have to rent, own, or test thoroughly in my own hands and item before I can decide if I would buy it -- especially if I'm given two choices and told simply to PICK ONE.
He asked for opinions on which we would buy, that's all.
Here it is:
1) I prefer the aesthetics of the Redhawk over the Raging bull. Period. You can't say that I don't, and I promise I'm not lying to you. I don't have to have ever even been in the same STATE as EITHER to make that decision.
2) I prefer not to have porting on a handgun, especially one as mild as a .44. That's based on significant experience with porting and without. I don't need to shoot that EXACT gun with ports to know that I don't like ports.
3) Based on the fit and finish of various examples of Ruger guns and Taurus guns -- including the EXACT guns we're discussing -- I'd choose a Ruger. I don't have to have fired a live round through either to make that choice.
4) Based on the reputations of the two companies, I'd expect to have fewer problems with Ruger products, in general, and if I DID have problems, I'd rather (by far) deal with Ruger's service department. I don't have to have fired either gun, nor ever had any problems at all, personally, with either brand of gun to make that choice.
It doesn't mean that I hate Taurus, or the Raging Bull. It doesn't mean that the RB can't be a suitable firearm for a task. I simply, personally, wouldn't choose it given those two options. That's all there is to it.
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I believe the OP question ("which do you think is the better buy?") allows anyone who has bought & shot either firearm to provide a credible answer. Because they've already expressed their opinion on the matter with a very reliable measure of confidence...their wallet. It's 35 to 3! Where IS the OP anyway? Triggerhappy101, where are ya' Brother? Decided yet which model we're most fond of?
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I you have a chance to shoot one will you?
If you were in the market again for such a product would you give it or something else a try?
Should the poster try a 629 or an Anaconda? Maybe the poster is not strong enough for the kick of the Super Redhawk and the Raging Bull will allow him to shoot comfortable. One will never know until it is tested first hand. I hate shooting a K frame but love the look. I love the N frame. If you are going to spend hard earned money on a handgun I just feel it is smart to try all options that are available within the price range and make the best educated opinion. Your last post was pretty much on point. I certainly hope you did not find my responses as an attack as they were not. I am just a guy giving my opinion on what I think is a great handgun.
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