magnatecman
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I wish you all would pipe down about southern Utah, we don't need anymore people moving in here.
Trying to decide on new state
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P5 Guy
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I LOVERMONT
Just not the weather.
Just not the weather.
revjen45
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Go to the Brady Campaign Against Gun Ownership site. They have just posted their new "scorecard" for all the states. The ones with lowest scores are a good place to start.
ArmedOkie
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Yup. texas, arkansas, or oklahoma is where you wanna be. texas is too hot for me though. no desert up here in OK or arkansas but toooooons of woods and low mountains as well as some prairie (western OK)
MICHAEL T
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Kentucky hunting, fishing, good carry laws Stay away from cinci area Lex and louisville and their work and property at good prices,
Kevin Rohrer
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Kentucky. We have great hunting(deer, elk, bear, birds). Great fishing (we hold the world record for smallmouth bass, and blue catfish) but we have plenty of other species as well: largemouth, rainbow trout, brown trout, brook trout, lake trout, tons of sunfish, pike, sauger, walleye, flathead and channel cats,
We have mild(sometimes non-existent) winters. Summer like springs and fall seasons, and very warm summers.
We have tons of public land (national forest, state parks, national parks, state wildlife management area)
We have varying geography, plains in western kentucky, rolling hills in the bluegrass, and mountains in eastern part of the state.
We have numerous large lakes.
Guns are a way of life here, the only thing that gets us 2 points on the brady score card is we allow colleges to regulate the possession on their property, but that is under review by the Ky supreme court. We are a shall-issue state, stand-your ground state, castle-doctrine state.
For the most part, it's a nice place to be.
We have mild(sometimes non-existent) winters. Summer like springs and fall seasons, and very warm summers.
We have tons of public land (national forest, state parks, national parks, state wildlife management area)
We have varying geography, plains in western kentucky, rolling hills in the bluegrass, and mountains in eastern part of the state.
We have numerous large lakes.
Guns are a way of life here, the only thing that gets us 2 points on the brady score card is we allow colleges to regulate the possession on their property, but that is under review by the Ky supreme court. We are a shall-issue state, stand-your ground state, castle-doctrine state.
For the most part, it's a nice place to be.
mortablunt
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Seconded!
The only issue is that it's an expensive area. However, prices aren't so bad if you're out in say Middleburg or Charlottesville. NoVA has a great job market and a lot going for it. It's also host to many huge gun shows a year.
You could also try Utah, Colorado, and Arizona.
Leaving Peoples Republic Of New Jersey
Moving April 14, 2012 after living in NJ for 30 years. The hunting in NJ is like shooting at dogs, but they call them deer. No bird hunting. Well there is, Game warden comes has 10 pheasant and lets them go- 50 hunters standing around waiting for him to say go and 10 birds shot 10 minutes after release. Gun laws as strick as Russia- no CC permits. One handgun a month. Moving to New Mexico. We dont know a sole out there, we're just going. I am on permanent disability but my wife does not have a job. Found a house in the newspaper-they still print them-. I found it on their web site. I'm 54 years old so if I can do it you can do it. You just have to decide where you want to go and go. You are young enough that if you dont like it where you go to, move on to another place. Just do it and havfun because you will regret it the rest of you life if you dont
Moving April 14, 2012 after living in NJ for 30 years. The hunting in NJ is like shooting at dogs, but they call them deer. No bird hunting. Well there is, Game warden comes has 10 pheasant and lets them go- 50 hunters standing around waiting for him to say go and 10 birds shot 10 minutes after release. Gun laws as strick as Russia- no CC permits. One handgun a month. Moving to New Mexico. We dont know a sole out there, we're just going. I am on permanent disability but my wife does not have a job. Found a house in the newspaper-they still print them-. I found it on their web site. I'm 54 years old so if I can do it you can do it. You just have to decide where you want to go and go. You are young enough that if you dont like it where you go to, move on to another place. Just do it and havfun because you will regret it the rest of you life if you dont
NWCP
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Take a look at Washington (state), Idaho, Montana, Texas, Nevada and maybe Utah. As for employment you're on your own there. Utah and Texas would probably be your best bests for employment. It all depends on what you are willing to do.Being retired I just have to look at taxes, cost of living and gun laws. That opens up quite a bit of territory for me... which my wife and I are considering. After 25 years the rain in Washington is getting a bit tiresome. We are considering Texas, Utah, or possibly Nevada. We have a few other ideas as well. Good luck.
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Ranger30-06
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I took that quiz. 95% of my results were in Montana and Wyoming... I guess I found my calling
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Wyoming. Texas ain't bad, but there's no Open Carry and a laundry list of places you can't have your gun with you. Wyoming just adopted constitutional carry. Heck, I think they still have homestead plots available there....
I dont understand I apply to companies in different states and clearly put that I live in NY but am wanting to relocate
They call me and when I bring up that I live in NY over the phone they lose interest... Do they not bother reading the resume/application that I send them or what?
They call me and when I bring up that I live in NY over the phone they lose interest... Do they not bother reading the resume/application that I send them or what?
I am not joking
I think companies do look at the area you are from and are prone to hire more from some areas than others because of the reputation some areas have over others regarding work ethic. I grew up in Iowa and moved to Oregon as a 26 year old. I put in an application at a Truck Line, (Teamsters Union, top pay for a laborer)...I was called the same day and went to work that night...in 1969 if it matters. I could not help believing there were tons of applications ahead of me but lots of people told me that just coming from Iowa (it could have been Minn, Missouri, etc.) meant a lot to coast employers because the Midwest people were known to be reliable employees and hard workers. I have nothing against New York but it did not have that reputation. This is just a guess.
I think companies do look at the area you are from and are prone to hire more from some areas than others because of the reputation some areas have over others regarding work ethic. I grew up in Iowa and moved to Oregon as a 26 year old. I put in an application at a Truck Line, (Teamsters Union, top pay for a laborer)...I was called the same day and went to work that night...in 1969 if it matters. I could not help believing there were tons of applications ahead of me but lots of people told me that just coming from Iowa (it could have been Minn, Missouri, etc.) meant a lot to coast employers because the Midwest people were known to be reliable employees and hard workers. I have nothing against New York but it did not have that reputation. This is just a guess.
longdayjake
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Phoenix = highest murder rate in the country and home invasions are common place around there. I would not live anywhere near Phoenix or Mesa if you paid me a million dollars to do it. Most of the rest of Arizona is pretty awesome though.
Washington = The only state in the union where the liberals have taken away so many rights that they actually leave Washington to go to Idaho. And then when they get here they try to make Idaho like Washington. Washington has stop light cameras, stop sign cameras, $100 tickets for no seat belt, $100 fine for cell phone use while driving, huge property taxes and a bunch of crime and violence. I live in Idaho about 4 miles from the border of Washington and just looking in the direction of Washington makes me feel like a peasant. Washington is for people who prefer to be subjects to their government rather than stewards. If Washington wasn't so beautiful I would hate the crap out of it. But then again, you have to ask yourself if you are willing to put up with the serpent in the paradise.
Utah,
Mormons are as easy to get along with as any other Christian community. So long as you aren't a loudmouthed profanity spewing drunk criminal you will be embraced. I personally think that the only part of Utah worth living in is Southern Utah. Then again, I was born and raised there.
Texas,
Not a bad place to live, but definately nowhere near as wide open as some of the western states. However, i think Texas has the most opportunity for jobs than any of the western states.
Mjldeckard,
We may be related. My Grandpa is from Virgin and my Grandma from Rockville. Grandpa was a Wilcox and Grandma was a Cox.
Washington = The only state in the union where the liberals have taken away so many rights that they actually leave Washington to go to Idaho. And then when they get here they try to make Idaho like Washington. Washington has stop light cameras, stop sign cameras, $100 tickets for no seat belt, $100 fine for cell phone use while driving, huge property taxes and a bunch of crime and violence. I live in Idaho about 4 miles from the border of Washington and just looking in the direction of Washington makes me feel like a peasant. Washington is for people who prefer to be subjects to their government rather than stewards. If Washington wasn't so beautiful I would hate the crap out of it. But then again, you have to ask yourself if you are willing to put up with the serpent in the paradise.
Utah,
Mormons are as easy to get along with as any other Christian community. So long as you aren't a loudmouthed profanity spewing drunk criminal you will be embraced. I personally think that the only part of Utah worth living in is Southern Utah. Then again, I was born and raised there.
Texas,
Not a bad place to live, but definately nowhere near as wide open as some of the western states. However, i think Texas has the most opportunity for jobs than any of the western states.
Mjldeckard,
We may be related. My Grandpa is from Virgin and my Grandma from Rockville. Grandpa was a Wilcox and Grandma was a Cox.
I highly doubt Phoenix has the highest murder rate... there are areas of phoenix that have allot of break ins based on the research ive done.. just gotta stay out of those areas like ANY CITY
I might try for PA also... atleast then I can easily drive down there for job interviews so I dont get turned down as much... I don't think they have much for wide open shooting areas like in the desert but they got some good hunting/camping areas and some good fishing caught the biggest brook trout Ive ever seen in PA... then proceeded to eat it..
I might try for PA also... atleast then I can easily drive down there for job interviews so I dont get turned down as much... I don't think they have much for wide open shooting areas like in the desert but they got some good hunting/camping areas and some good fishing caught the biggest brook trout Ive ever seen in PA... then proceeded to eat it..
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Pennsylvania might not have wide open deserts, but there are areas of true wilderness up along the northern border, and along the mountain ranges.
The one thing Pennsylvania does have is private, non-for-profit gun clubs. They're all over the place. And they range from the $25 a year simple, no frills stuff to very fancy clubs with extremely-well maintained ranges and clubhouses, and very active memberships in the different shooting sports.
I once did a study of how many clubs I could go to within a 45 minute's drive from my house. I stopped counting after I hit a dozen. Within an hour's drive radius I could probably come up with 3 dozen clubs.
And then you've got the ranges owned by the Game Commission, but I avoid those.
I much prefer the private clubs. They usually are more liberal in the styles of shooting; I don't have to deal with the riff-raff that use public grounds; and they usually have active groups in a few different shooting disciplines.
I didn't really mature as a shooter until I gave up the "lone wolf" trips to the range and hooked up with a group of like-minded people in my chosen disciplines. To me the real value in these clubs aren't in the facilities, it's the people who populate them.
You guys out west can keep your shooting deserts. I like the communities of people, and all the many good friends I've made at these clubs along the way.
The one thing Pennsylvania does have is private, non-for-profit gun clubs. They're all over the place. And they range from the $25 a year simple, no frills stuff to very fancy clubs with extremely-well maintained ranges and clubhouses, and very active memberships in the different shooting sports.
I once did a study of how many clubs I could go to within a 45 minute's drive from my house. I stopped counting after I hit a dozen. Within an hour's drive radius I could probably come up with 3 dozen clubs.
And then you've got the ranges owned by the Game Commission, but I avoid those.
I much prefer the private clubs. They usually are more liberal in the styles of shooting; I don't have to deal with the riff-raff that use public grounds; and they usually have active groups in a few different shooting disciplines.
I didn't really mature as a shooter until I gave up the "lone wolf" trips to the range and hooked up with a group of like-minded people in my chosen disciplines. To me the real value in these clubs aren't in the facilities, it's the people who populate them.
You guys out west can keep your shooting deserts. I like the communities of people, and all the many good friends I've made at these clubs along the way.
@ Bullfrogken et al
I enjoyed your post, Bullfrog.....also I had been meaning to post here on this thread that I had read a year or two ago that Penn. has very high per capita rate of gunownership and that firearms are a very big part of that State's populace...meaning not gang-bangers in the inner-city but people like Bullfrogken who enjoy and actively participate in the shooting sports. If I were to move from Iowa I would certainly consider Penn. On our drives through there going east to other places I have found it an extremely scenic area with lots of forest, etc. In fact, the one and only time I saw a bear as road kill was in Penn.
I enjoyed your post, Bullfrog.....also I had been meaning to post here on this thread that I had read a year or two ago that Penn. has very high per capita rate of gunownership and that firearms are a very big part of that State's populace...meaning not gang-bangers in the inner-city but people like Bullfrogken who enjoy and actively participate in the shooting sports. If I were to move from Iowa I would certainly consider Penn. On our drives through there going east to other places I have found it an extremely scenic area with lots of forest, etc. In fact, the one and only time I saw a bear as road kill was in Penn.
ErikO
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Missouri is nice and we have plenty of room.
BullfrogKen
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Pennsylvania does seem to have the gun culture pretty firmly embedded.
We've got some great laws on the books. And thanks to several years of effort from Scott Perry and Daryl Metcalfe in the House, Kim Stolfer with Firearms Owners Against Crime, and a groundswell grassroots effort we got Castle Doctrine passed last year.
We've got a few silly stupid laws, but in all I feel better about our situation than most states.
Yes moewadle, Pennsylvania produces some excellent competitive shooters. I believe it has to do with the culture here, and the tremendous opportunity for statewide competition with all these clubs across the state. Pennsylvanians are well-represented at the Nationals at Camp Perry. One of the clubs I compete at even shuts down club-level competition for the month of August because so many of them go to Perry.
If I had to pick another state I'd look real hard at Tennessee and Virginia. Both those states have a lot to offer regarding the type of living and culture I'd enjoy, and an established shooting culture. Tennessee in particular.
We've got some great laws on the books. And thanks to several years of effort from Scott Perry and Daryl Metcalfe in the House, Kim Stolfer with Firearms Owners Against Crime, and a groundswell grassroots effort we got Castle Doctrine passed last year.
We've got a few silly stupid laws, but in all I feel better about our situation than most states.
Yes moewadle, Pennsylvania produces some excellent competitive shooters. I believe it has to do with the culture here, and the tremendous opportunity for statewide competition with all these clubs across the state. Pennsylvanians are well-represented at the Nationals at Camp Perry. One of the clubs I compete at even shuts down club-level competition for the month of August because so many of them go to Perry.
If I had to pick another state I'd look real hard at Tennessee and Virginia. Both those states have a lot to offer regarding the type of living and culture I'd enjoy, and an established shooting culture. Tennessee in particular.
Ranger30-06
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Pennsylvania also has a veeeeeeeery good habit of immediately voting out any politician that even mentions anything anti gun. Ever notice why you never hear about some mayor from PA or Philly spouting anti gun bullcrap? Because the second they open their mouths, they're gone.
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