Tul Ammo Small Pistol Primers FTF

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kingmt said:
If I remember I believe they didn't fire on a second strike ether. Can't remember if you tried the same case in a different gun thay had less failures tho.
kingmt, yes the failed to ignite Tula SP primers did not fire on second, third and fourth primer re-strikes. I have shot the same loads in other pistols with similar results.

The only difference has been with 45ACP cases that have small primer pockets. So far, all the Tula SP primers have fired in Sig 1911, RIA 1911, M&P45 and PT145.

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Tula SP primer struck once with Glock 17 and three times with Sig 1911 removed from the Federal 45 case. Pink paper cup under the anvil clearly shows the priming compound did not ignite.

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.004 deep, .008 deep, not seating hard enough or soft enough. Bronz colored, nickle colored.

The debate goes on and on about Tulammo small pistol primers.

It is interesting that there never seems to be as much talk about problems with Winchester or CCI primers, etc.

I have tried their small pistol primers and had a high rate of FTF. I can not tell you the color any longer because the ones that I had remaining after the frustration of dealing with them were soaked in oil and disposed of.

It is quite obvious that there are some quality control issues at Tulammo in regards to their small pistol primers.

The Russians seem to have the same level of Quality control at their primer factories as the did at their Nuclear Power Plants!!
 
Well I like to learn so I hope we keep talking about it. I thought this was what the forms was for.

I don't have a problem with Tula but mine are the bronze colored ones. I have had several FTF with CCI since you have never heard of it I'll bring it up. I don't know that it was the primers tho but several out of 3 different pack(100 count) all from the same case is all that I have ever had a problem with.
 
I always run my ftf's through the chamber again after the mag. They've all ended up seating strikes/ 2nd time boom for me, and I consider my priming to be pretty well seated... oh well... :)
 
I seat 9mm by press feel and visual inspection as I put the cartridges in 100ct MTM cases.
I can feel a primer bottom out on a turret press, just like a single stage. I bottom them all. Two have not fired in 30-40K reloads. One had a formula discoloration when I checked it, and long ago one was not quite seated fully and fired on the second strike.

JMO, The numbers of FTFs I continue read about with Tula & Wolf pistol primers shows why saving a few dollars does not make them acceptable for use. It's just not worth the higher potential for failures. I would not buy a new pistol that failed to fire intermittently. I won't use a reloading component that's likely to cause the same.

So there!:p
 
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I'm about with you. I made the decision that were it to come to it, I'd rather save a dollar or fifty (think price differential) going hungry or something to make sure a certain chain of events is assured.
 
JMO, The numbers of FTFs I continue read about with Tula & Wolf pistol primers shows why saving a few dollars does not make them acceptable for use. It's just not worth the higher potential for failures. I would not buy a new pistol that failed to fire intermittently. I won't use a reloading component that's likely to cause the same.
I won't buy the nickel-colored small pistols again. And I won't buy *any* SP's again that I don't know the color because they might be nickel. But having already bought 5000 of 'em, I can use them for practice and they will work great for that. In the right gun, they might even be reliable.

I just bought another 5000 Wolf rifle primers a couple of weeks ago. They are half the price (or less) of benchrest primers and work as good. Until they screw them up and don't make it right, then I'll quit buying them too and go back to Winchesters.
 
I have several thousand Tula rifle primers that are fine. I also have a thousand Tula small pistol primers that are not firing on about 3% (3 out of every 100) cartridges. And seating is NOT the issue.

Like they said, Rusky quality is very spotty.
 
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