Tumbler suggestions?
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jcwit
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You just don't get it! Spend $49.00 for a Cabelas tumbler, guarnteed forever, at least they will replace it with a new one every time, however in 8 years I've never had to do this or had it happen but if and when it does I get a new one.
Dillon, spend $150.00 for a tumbler, anything goes wrong they'll replace it, no problem. Most don't need it and never will just as when Cabelas will likely never need to be replaced.
Now then you "claim" its quiter, how have you tested this , did you use a decibel meter or just your hearing, what was the tumblers sitting on , concret, wood flooring, bench top, how full were they with media, who full were they with cases, ect, ect,. Be absolutly sure you get rid of ALL vairables.
I still fail to see the point, the Cabelas does everything the Dillon does at a third of the price, if you can not understand that logic, there is no hope of convincing you, your mind is closed and unopen to any further products, unless I suppiose someone comes out with a 10 times heavier, $500.00 tumbler. Price seems to be your only criteria for quality.
It obvious you've never worked in procurement for a large company, by large I mean sales in the 10 figures yearly.
A procurement officer is someone that knows how to save a company money with his purchases. Not how he can spend money in his purchases. Believe me I know, I've had to let enough buyers go over the years. They only knew how to spend.
Unless of course one works for the Government. Then all of the above is out the window,
Dillon, spend $150.00 for a tumbler, anything goes wrong they'll replace it, no problem. Most don't need it and never will just as when Cabelas will likely never need to be replaced.
Now then you "claim" its quiter, how have you tested this , did you use a decibel meter or just your hearing, what was the tumblers sitting on , concret, wood flooring, bench top, how full were they with media, who full were they with cases, ect, ect,. Be absolutly sure you get rid of ALL vairables.
I still fail to see the point, the Cabelas does everything the Dillon does at a third of the price, if you can not understand that logic, there is no hope of convincing you, your mind is closed and unopen to any further products, unless I suppiose someone comes out with a 10 times heavier, $500.00 tumbler. Price seems to be your only criteria for quality.
It obvious you've never worked in procurement for a large company, by large I mean sales in the 10 figures yearly.
A procurement officer is someone that knows how to save a company money with his purchases. Not how he can spend money in his purchases. Believe me I know, I've had to let enough buyers go over the years. They only knew how to spend.
Unless of course one works for the Government. Then all of the above is out the window,
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bloominonion
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Ohh, and to add the fact that numerous companies buy a product from a manufacturer, label it their own and price it to fit their own needs.
Not to go off topic, but I have a compressor from harbor freight, and it has the part numbers and badging that match another company, that sells it for 4x the price.
So in other words, make a recommendation of your experience, and let the OP decide. There is no point to bashing other products or saying they are inferior if you have not used it or properly compared it.
Not to go off topic, but I have a compressor from harbor freight, and it has the part numbers and badging that match another company, that sells it for 4x the price.
So in other words, make a recommendation of your experience, and let the OP decide. There is no point to bashing other products or saying they are inferior if you have not used it or properly compared it.
jcwit
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Just miked my bowl on my tumbler, the thickness is .173 thousands. OK, 5 times that is
.865 thousands, thats a little over 7/8 of an inch thick. Now as I stated, yes I have looked at dillon and I have yet to see a bowl on their tumblers 7/8 of an inch thick. BTW, just how are you determining the quality of anyones plastic material? Just wondering.
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blarby
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I think this falls into the mac or snap on argument.
Classified : Sorry your are seeing right now a lot of what I've been seeing here.
I'm new here too.
It doesn't really get a lot of our questions answered, the wang waving, does it ?
Classified : Sorry your are seeing right now a lot of what I've been seeing here.
I'm new here too.
It doesn't really get a lot of our questions answered, the wang waving, does it ?
jcwit
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I agree wholeheartedly, theres nothing wrong with Dillon, if one want to spend their money on Dillon fine with me, but to say/claim/imply all others are crap/BS/or inferior is just plain wrong. I'll wager cookies to donuts 918v does not drive a Rolls Royce, nor do most of us, Chevy's, Fords, and Toyotas get us from here to there just fine.
Mayhap I just have a terrible time expressing myself.
ArchAngelCD
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Everyone here does realize the Cabela's tumbler is actually a Berry's tumbler, right? Berry's is considered a great tumbler so therefor...... (at less cost)
NeuseRvrRat
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well, it sounds like everyone has been able to find what fits their needs and budget. what more could we ask for?
bbuddtec
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Presently, I think any tumbler is better than none 
LiveLife
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Yup, Berry's tumbler comes in many flavors - Great vibratory tumbler with nice capacity, quiet operation and fantastic price.ArchAngelCD said:
Model 400 at Cabela's if you like green - $49
Blueberry at Kempf Gun Shop if you like blue - $49
Berry's Tumbler at Sinclair if you like red - $59 - Red dye must cost more than green/blue!
Old krow
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Yes. Personally, if it were me, I'd look at my budget and see if the money (the difference between the Dillon and Berry's) would be better served elsewhere. If your budget affords, go for the Dillon. If however, that money could better spent on something else, particularly something essential, I'd budget accordingly and spend accordingly.
If you end up with the Cabelas tumbler I do not think that you would have made a bad decision.
ArchAngelCD
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Darn that expansive red die!!
bubbacrabb
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I like the cabelas tumbler, I wish it were bigger, and if you were tumbling a ton of brass maybe the Dillon would be better. However I think with the amount of brass you want to tumble you're making a good decision on the cabelas one. I'd get just the tumbler though if I was you, and then spend the 30 bucks on the media seperator the rotary one. So much easier. Then buy your as someone else said econoline corn cob media. 40 lbs bag for 20 bucks! Its awesome! I got mine from drillspot I think. Fast delivery also. I used cabelas brass polish for a while, but now use a bit of nu finish car polish. Cheaper for a bigger bottle and works awesome. That bag of corn cob media should last you years. Good luck to you, my little green tumbler tumbles 5-10k pieces of brass a month. Runs like a champ
idahoglock36
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I think I'm on my 4th Cabelas tumbler or so....Make sure to save your reciept or they credit you the lowest recent sale price.
The Cabelas (Berry's) tumblers do wear out and the lids crack....they are close to a POS but I can't complain because Cabelas always gives me a in store credit to go buy another.....I think I got the lowest sale price once and it cost me about $10 additional for a new one. Now I save the receipt. Also the stores don't always have just the tumbler sometimes you have to get the whole kit and spring for the extra $$$. You do however end up with new media, polish and a media separator which you don't need three of.
Cabelas tumbler is a good value because of the warranty and it helps if they have a retail store near you.
The Cabelas (Berry's) tumblers do wear out and the lids crack....they are close to a POS but I can't complain because Cabelas always gives me a in store credit to go buy another.....I think I got the lowest sale price once and it cost me about $10 additional for a new one. Now I save the receipt. Also the stores don't always have just the tumbler sometimes you have to get the whole kit and spring for the extra $$$. You do however end up with new media, polish and a media separator which you don't need three of.
Cabelas tumbler is a good value because of the warranty and it helps if they have a retail store near you.
idahoglock36
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Forgot, get a rotary separator....the one that comes in the Cabelas kit works but is a pain in the butt. I have a green RCBS one and it rocks.
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get a rotary separator. I have a green RCBS with top and bottom cover, two handles for cranking the cage and it rocks.
I sit in my office and tumble brass in 40 dollar frankfort arsenal tumbler. almost no noise unless I overload it then into the separator. With about 2 dozen turns of the handle it is done. Pour the media right back into tumbler and ready to go.
Best part No media dust on anything except the inside of the separator. Worth every penny.
My Frankfort tumble run more brass in one session then you want to do. and i have let it run as long as 12 hours. Came home from work one day and didn't know it was on until i went to separate the brass.
DON'T DRINK THE BLUE COOL-AID. you can buy a good tumbler, the separator and a lot of powder with what you save
I sit in my office and tumble brass in 40 dollar frankfort arsenal tumbler. almost no noise unless I overload it then into the separator. With about 2 dozen turns of the handle it is done. Pour the media right back into tumbler and ready to go.
Best part No media dust on anything except the inside of the separator. Worth every penny.
My Frankfort tumble run more brass in one session then you want to do. and i have let it run as long as 12 hours. Came home from work one day and didn't know it was on until i went to separate the brass.
DON'T DRINK THE BLUE COOL-AID. you can buy a good tumbler, the separator and a lot of powder with what you save
jcwit
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I also would like to know how you define that and use that term.
My Cabelas tumbler has been running for 8 years now, no cracks in the lid, usually runs overnight or longer at a time. Lord only knows how much brass has been thru it, I do know for a fact I put 4 5 gal. buckets thru it one after the other one time. Sounds like some here are overloading the bowl to have them burn out or over tightning the lid to have it crack. Comes down to the same old fact, there those that could break a tank.
jcwit
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I think/look at it as a matter of pride, same as the reason I wax my cars, dress neatly, shave, have my hair cut, keep my lawn mowed, shoes shined, firearms cleaned on oiled, ect., ect.
I also have the Franford Arsenal Quick-N-EZ tumbler.First tumbler
I've owned.It's quiet.Does a good job.I guess there are better out there,
but for me,this is a nice tumbler for the money.I really don't worry
about it breaking.I don't think Midway would continue selling an inferior
product.
I've owned.It's quiet.Does a good job.I guess there are better out there,
but for me,this is a nice tumbler for the money.I really don't worry
about it breaking.I don't think Midway would continue selling an inferior
product.
Berry's MFG
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I'm not suggesting that you should buy Berry's but I do suggest you try to buy a product that is built here. We had to buy a chinese motor and cord due to the fact that the only American made c-frame motor costs three times as much and would put the product price around $90, but everything else is made by us in Utah. I do take exception to a reference that our tumbler is a POS, I've been in the business for a long time and worked for Dillon and others and I don't agree with the statement.
LiveLife
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I for one can certainly vouch for Berry's tumbler and it is NOT a POS. Of several different vibratory tumblers I have used, it is one of better units with good capacity. I think some people may be overloading the capacity for the Berry's 400 tumbler and complaining.Berry's MFG said:
1000 - 9mm
650 - .38 Spl
600 - 45acp,
450 - .223/5.56
250 - 30-06
As to tumbling, for me, reloading accurate loads are about consistency and cleaner reloading practices.
Tumbling help remove the black carbon fouling residue from the outside of the case to not build up in the resizing die or cause scratches on the case during sizing. If you tumble with polish, the small amount of residual polish left on the case acts like case lube and help decrease the resizing effort, especially for 9mm cases.
I don't need shiny cases to load match grade ammo, just clean cases (for my indoor range brass, cleaning takes about 20-30 minutes of tumbling with walnut + polish). I do polish a separate batch of cases (about 1+ hour with corn media and polish) that I use for range loads my relatives/friends shoot with me to "impress" them - they are shiny like factory new. When they open the ammo bags/cans, they gleam like gold.
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Prior to writing this, I consulted 2500 other 918v's and ran two double-blind studies back to back, to satisfy jcwit's sterility requirement:
If the lid cracks, and the motor burns out, then it looks like a POS and walks like POS.
I had a Midway tumbler and even after a decade and a half of problem-free use, I realized it was a POS when I bought my Dillon.
The Dillon bowl is .2" thick and so is the lid. It is built like a tank and the motor runs like a Swiss watch. That is what impresses me. It's like they spared no expense at creating this machine. It is like a pre-War Colt. Or a Redding press. Or a Neil Jones seater die
Now if you like a cheaper tumbler, fine. But in this case, cheaper is not best.
If the lid cracks, and the motor burns out, then it looks like a POS and walks like POS.
I had a Midway tumbler and even after a decade and a half of problem-free use, I realized it was a POS when I bought my Dillon.
The Dillon bowl is .2" thick and so is the lid. It is built like a tank and the motor runs like a Swiss watch. That is what impresses me. It's like they spared no expense at creating this machine. It is like a pre-War Colt. Or a Redding press. Or a Neil Jones seater die
Now if you like a cheaper tumbler, fine. But in this case, cheaper is not best.
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