Tupac Documents On Display With The Constitution?
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I've heard of him, but...
I also have heard of the Rosenbergs, John Wilkes Booth, Slobodan Milosovich, Idi Amin, Josef Stalin, et al. So what was the original point? Just because we know who someone is/was makes them somehow respectable? I beg to deffer. Vehemently.
I also have heard of the Rosenbergs, John Wilkes Booth, Slobodan Milosovich, Idi Amin, Josef Stalin, et al. So what was the original point? Just because we know who someone is/was makes them somehow respectable? I beg to deffer. Vehemently.
I always find if funny that these articles make it sound like the papers will be set up right next to the constitution. The language tries to make it sound like people are saying these papers are just as important as the constitution. I hate that kind of journalism.
1911 guy said:
Interesting perspective. It falls pretty flat when you consider that the records of the life and times of the Rosenbergs are in fact held in the National Archives, along with those surrounding John Wilkes Booth's assisination of Lincoln. You see those were historically significant people, and being of historical significance is the criteria that determines what documents are stored in the national archives. Being "respectable" has nothing to do with it. Should we forget the holocaust because it wasnt "respectable"? Should we turn a blind eye to Hussein and Bin Laden because they arent respectable?
Hey, look: Cynthia McKinney is a US Rep from north Georgia. Nutzoidal is a mild description. Her age and IQ are in close proximity. Everything bad in the world is a Whitey plot. A major problem for her is the amount of time spent studying as to whether the shiny side goes on the inside or the outside.
Hope that helps...
Art
Hope that helps...
Art
tulsamal said:
I actually don't know what to say about this, other then I'm glad I left Oklahoma (Quapaw) to get my BA and MPA. It seems somewhat closeted that the University of Oklahoma and Rogers State College would create an atmosphere wherein instructors are missing a fundamental element of a large portion of society... Especially poly-sci folk.
Of course, I dated girls from both universities, and it was never about their great, big, bra-encased brains.
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It isn't all a cute little intellectual game of moral relatavism. There is intent behind Cynthia McKinney's perversion. It is this intent that separates the holocaust from Tupacalypse.
http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/2PAC/
If McKinney were interested in celebrating something positive there is a long list of good people to choose from. If she were interested in displaying Tupac's "music" as the depravity that it is, then she could have done that, too.
But that is not her intent. She is a sick, racist, poverty pimp. And she wants to commemorate an equally evil human. And that is what makes the difference.
It isn't all a cute little intellectual game of moral relatavism. There is intent behind Cynthia McKinney's perversion. It is this intent that separates the holocaust from Tupacalypse.
http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/2PAC/
If McKinney were interested in celebrating something positive there is a long list of good people to choose from. If she were interested in displaying Tupac's "music" as the depravity that it is, then she could have done that, too.
But that is not her intent. She is a sick, racist, poverty pimp. And she wants to commemorate an equally evil human. And that is what makes the difference.
Don't know much of anything about Cynthia McWhoever.
Grew up listening to Tupac.
Glad to see most of society is still terrified by black guys... especially ones with opinions and microphones
You guys should get over it... really... you sound like a bunch of closet-racists.
What was so terrible about Tupac? please let me know - I'm interested. What horrible crimes did he commit against humanity? What kind of genocide did he advocate? I hear comparisons to Miosevic and Stalin, which is absolutely rediculous.. It's one thing to not like someone's music, or not like them as a person - it's another thing to compare them to dictators and war criminals.
Sounds like most of you don't know enough about the man to even have a legitimate gripe with him... I have the feeling this has more to do with someone's daughter dating black dudes and liking rap rather than anyone's music or anything legitimate. Can't say that surprises me though... sadly.
Grew up listening to Tupac.
Glad to see most of society is still terrified by black guys... especially ones with opinions and microphones
You guys should get over it... really... you sound like a bunch of closet-racists.
What was so terrible about Tupac? please let me know - I'm interested. What horrible crimes did he commit against humanity? What kind of genocide did he advocate? I hear comparisons to Miosevic and Stalin, which is absolutely rediculous.. It's one thing to not like someone's music, or not like them as a person - it's another thing to compare them to dictators and war criminals.
Sounds like most of you don't know enough about the man to even have a legitimate gripe with him... I have the feeling this has more to do with someone's daughter dating black dudes and liking rap rather than anyone's music or anything legitimate. Can't say that surprises me though... sadly.
This is Byron Quick posting from Art's computer. The software won't let me log on for some reason.
In reference to the quotation above...Tupac was a 'historical figure." Under that definition then Larry the Cable Guy is a historical figure.
I know of Tupac from news articles of his various brushes with the law, his murder, and various idjits proclaiming a cover up in his death. Yes, indeedy, vast historical significance there...maybe...if you think that Rep. McKinney is wrapped tight. I don't.
Dear Mike:
Watch your mouth about calling people like me a racist. You are obviously too stupid to read Tupac's lyrics because you are too stupid to correctly type English on a computer. Your comments about being afraid of Black men or afraid of someone's daughter dating one is out of line. You don't know what you are talking about. Best to keep your ignorant opinions to yourself.
Watch your mouth about calling people like me a racist. You are obviously too stupid to read Tupac's lyrics because you are too stupid to correctly type English on a computer. Your comments about being afraid of Black men or afraid of someone's daughter dating one is out of line. You don't know what you are talking about. Best to keep your ignorant opinions to yourself.
shermacman said:
I call it how I see it buddy.. If you take offense, oh well... And please point out to me where my english is incorrect? Also, if what I said didnt hit home, I doubt you would be so offended
What was so terrible about Tupac? please let me know - I'm interested.
More importantly why the hell should any artist or entertainer be given space in the archives?
I'ts not about racism it is about gang thuggery, rape, and senseless violence.
I stopped listening to rap in 1985. Now I listen to Charlie Pride, Jimi Hendrix, Bo Diddley, B.B. King and Little Richard.
More importantly why the hell should any artist or entertainer be given space in the archives?
I'ts not about racism it is about gang thuggery, rape, and senseless violence.
I stopped listening to rap in 1985. Now I listen to Charlie Pride, Jimi Hendrix, Bo Diddley, B.B. King and Little Richard.
jsalcedo said:
Last post here. No intention of hi-jacking the thread, just wanted to post my opinion.. Firstly, to clarify, I was not calling anyone, specifically, a racist. Some comments, to me, sounded culturally motivated and that is my opinion. I have a right to that, just like any of you do.
I can understand most things posted here. Some of Tupac's music was foul, I think one would be a fool to deny that. Some of his music was also positive, and I also think one would be a fool to deny that as well.. I think comparing him to Milosevic, Stalin, or any other sociopathic psycho is frivelous at best. The rape charge, I happen to believe that he was not guilty, but that is also my opinion. If he did commit rape then he's a scumbag IMHO, end of story.
People change. Tupac, toward the end of his career, changed for the worst as far as SOME of his lyrics are concerned. No denying that. That still doesnt take away the good things he's done, or the things he spoke out about in society. I'm assuming that's what senator / congresswoman whoever wants to display in the the archives. Personally, I think if comic books and other "questionable" items are displayed there, musicians have a right to have politically relevant works displayed there too.
As for being called stupid, I wont dignify that with a response. What I will say is that having mentioned that "I grew up listening to Tupac," one would have to question the intelligence of someone who responds with
"You're obviously too stupid to read Tupac's lyrics,"
Not only have I read all of his lyrics, I know most of his songs by heart. What's your point? Do you agree with EVERYTHING an artist you like says? Maybe you do, but that would be a difference between you and I. I form my own opinions because I am a grown man. I stand by my statements, and will not apologize or recant them. If my words offend you, it's probably because they are true.
Dear Mike:
Your word, your post, your grammar, your punctuation, your comments, your idiotic logic: "rediculous".
Look it up.
Your word, your post, your grammar, your punctuation, your comments, your idiotic logic: "rediculous".
Look it up.
I've been accused of listening to foul music..actually very foul but most of this music was all done tongue in cheek mainly to challenge the censors and the moral minority.
I actually went out and bought 2 Live Crew's infamous album because a local
man was arrested in his record shop for violating open ended obscenity laws.
Anyone who has listened to the comedy of Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock can see where I'm coming from.
It's not about attacking the music or the entertainment it's about cannonizing a performer in our National archives.
If Tupac is going to be in the archives lets put Michael Jackson's bed sheets in the smithsonian
shermacman said:
Ditto the above comments.
Silencing him only gives feeble-minded fools a sense of legitimacy to their conspiracy theories. Evil tends to grow in dark places, let him spout his insanity in the wide open world of free speach.
Vicious?! Bush and Cheney have merely attempted to respond to the treasonous statements of the Liberal Left. Bush and Cheney have made on msitake: they should not have waited so long.
Ch 13 Finess work with the Maglight system.
This gets into when to whack a Solitare with a 2 cell AAA Maglight.
My kids school sports fields are covered with Goose juice.
They hate the Bush administration more than the love the free world.
I collect cheap Chinese knock-offs. I know, it is an odd hobby, but lets settle on a price (~100 bucks).
As you are so harsh on others for their spelling, punctuation, and grammatical errors I though you might like to review your own recent posts and critique those for the same errors.
Here's where I keep getting lost in this thread.
How is placing records about him in the archives "cannonizing" him?
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