TURKEYS!

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islandphish

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chased around a bunch of turkeys today. spot and stalk. got close to a few but no beards. i'm gonna go out and sit in the morning. does anybody have any idea i should sit there? Any other good turkey tips.

oh yeah, this is my first turkey hunt and it was opening day.
 
About the only advice I can give you when it comes to turkeys is camo to the max, make no noise, and don't move. Turkeys are goofy, awkward-looking birds, but I've read that they have the most finely-tuned senses of any North American game animal, and after encountering them in the woods - I believe it.

I was bowhunting one time... full-camo, headnet, make-up, in the shadows backed up under the branches of a pine tree... I would have sworn I was invisible. The guy I was hunting with spooked some turkeys that came running over the ridge towards me, and all I did was turn my head maybe a quarter-turn. Those turkeys spotted that movement from 50 yards away, moving at a dead run.

From what I understand, that's why dedicated turkey hunters rely on calls to lure the turkeys in - because it's almost impossible to sneak up on one.
 
Get yourself a crow call and get out in the area about 30 minutes before it gets light out. Give the crow call a few blows and see if there are any gobbles. Most toms will respond to a shock call such as the crow call. If you get no response then I'd suggest you move on.

If you get a response then move in a little closer and pick a spot to set up in. You'll here them come out of the roost. Once they start dropping down, start your calling and be patient.

Good camo and movement discipline are a must for turkey hunting in my eyes.
 
Hunting in the fall is a lot different than spring gobbler hunting. In Missouri where I hunted, you could shoot any turkey in the fall, not just the gobblers. Calling is dramatically different between spring and fall also. I used basically 2 techniques in the fall. #1, I would set up in a spot where I knew they were using for feeding and use long, raspy yelps trying to mimic an older hen. If #1 didn't work, if I could locate a flock, try to break up the entire flock by running at them. Then sit right there and use a combination of the long raspy hen yelps and a call called a Ki-Ki run (sp?). The ki-ki run mimics the calls of the yearling birds. This is in an attempt to trick them into regrouping the flock at your location. BTW, the yearling birds are small, 7-10 lbs, but they are real tasty.
 
They say superman can see through rocks. Well Turkeys can see around them.
If by chance you run accrost a flock and scatter them, try to get a fix on the direction most of them went. Then back up or 45 it about 50 yards and head in their direction or close to it about another 50, or in other words try to be around 100 yards from them. Set up and sit tight a bit, 15-30 minutes usually does it and try an assembly. Sometimes if you have an agressive hen she will start up sooner, so you have to start sooner. I've called in some birds by imitating the sounds they make and not just a simple kee kee. I belive this has the effect of irritating them and they some in to investigate. That has worked for me in the past. No garuntees. And sometimes you can hear them sneeking up behind you. If your lucky you'll have a loney bird responding on the way in and you might be able to adjust.
One fine cold and snowy late fall season a small flock came crashing through and hauled right by me and stoped about 75 yards down the hill. I Tried to mimic a jake making some noise and boy didn't he haul right back up the hill and yak up a storm. Shot that one. Birds down the hill still making noise. So ok they're not super bright. But as others have said their vision is super keen. Tried to sneek up on a pair the other day and it's like they know already, from 300 yards away your there and fly off.
 
I've heard a good fall strategy is to take an owl hooter and to go out the night before and scout, then set up pre-dawn.

You've said to hoot 30 min before sunrise. My problem is I have limited time to hunt and don't know where the turkey's are. I've heard that up here (NH) the flocks congregate near the edge of fields and wooded area and on wooded roads. Can I go out, park on the side of a wooded road at night, use my owl hooter, if I don't hear a gobble, drive 400 yards and repeat until I find a gobble?

thanks,
atek3
 
I can personally vouch for an owl hooter. I've done that before myself just to stir things up, and I swear if there are turkeys roosting in trees nearby when you do it they'll pretty much come unglued.

My Grandpa always said they reacted that way because owls eat turkey chicks. I don't know if that's true or not, but I know if you catch them at the right time of day (or night) and stand in the head of the holler and give a good hoot, you can listen closely and count every turkey all the way down to the creek.
 
i'm not a fall turkey hunter, but shock gobbling, i've understood, is more reliable in the spring, because they're so hopped up horomonally. still happens in the fall, just not as consistently. visibility is so much more important than noise though. i've come up on turkeys unexpectedly and been gobbled at when i snap branches and things, but i usually blow it because i can't get to cover slow-and-fast enough to keep from spooking them. they do have great hearing and absolutely amazing eyesight, and have a tendency to remain well-covered, periscoping their heads to use obstructions so you can barely notice them even at relatively close range. turkey i shot last spring i did need to adjust on at very close range, luckily it was in pretty thick woods and he would go behind a tree here or there. "luckily" is definitely operative though, there was only so much i could move, and i just picked the closest thing to an open lane and hoped he'd walk through it. worked out for me, but i'd probably had at least a half dozen gobblers hang up or spook out on me in the 24 hours before that. fall turkey my understanding is you want to find and scatter flocks, and then try to hunker down and use less aggressive calling to lead the birds to believe their flock is where you are. at least for someone of my experience level, though, i don't see how you could still hunt turkeys, their ears will tip them off and once they're looking in a direction, even if they gobble your way, their eyes are just too darn good. it's a heck of a rush though.
 
Ive had good results with an owl hoot on Easterns and Osceola's but the crow call seems to work best out here for Merriams.

Also, I've hunted turkey 90% of the time during the spring season and the remainder for fall turkey. Take what I say with a grain of salt as you should with all of us internet junkies. ;)
 
In Alabama turkeys rarely gobble in the fall. The time tested method of hunting them in the fall is to find a flock and scatter them by running at them to make them fly. Go to the spot from which they flew, wait about 20-30 minutes (for me its 20) and start putting and yelping, the young turkeys will come back. Best way to get older birds is to ambush um of if you find a "bachelor" group, scatter them and work them same as a family group.

Another method is to get in an area where you know they roost and listen for them to fly up at dark. After they are located come back before daylight and set up on them, close as possible without spooking um, and cluck softly before they fly down and frequently they will fly down on you.
 
Well we got 2 today. Spotted em up and just got right on top of them and came home with a couple nice hens. Not real big but will be good eating.

Next year I will take my German Shorthair to break up the flocks.

Cleaning was a huge pain in the butt but what can you do?

Looking forward to the next time...and pheasants next weekend!
 
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