Two month wait for CHP permit in Virginia?

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I applied for a CHP in Northampton county on April 18. I called the clerk of the court right around a week ago to see what was going on, and I was told that my fingerprints hadn't come back from the State Police yet. Seeing as how I'm employed by a local law enforcement agency, I wouldn't think there would be a problem with my background check.Tomorrow will be the two month mark, and I still haven't heard anything yet. Has anyone else had to wait longer than normal for their permits in Va? Is there anyone I can contact to see what is holding things up?

Chris

P.S. I understand I can carry concealed as a law enforcement officer, I just like to cover all my bases. Plus, there are some benefits to having a CHP that go beyond carrying concealed.
 
Yeah, when I got my Utah license, the wait was 3 months. Lots of out of staters clogging up the system.:neener:
 
I got mine in the Richmond courthouse from the clerk. Filled out the form only. It took me about a week to get it, and there were no fingerprints required.

Perhaps go there?
 
Chris, VA is a shall-issue state. If they have not issued your permit within 45 calendar days, they must provide you with a copy of your application, which will serve as your defacto permit for 90 days. Go back to the courthouse and tell them you want your temporary permit. They MUST provide it.
 
be glad you arent south in NC... i had to wait 2 and a half months for my APPOINTMENT TO APPLY for my CCH... my appointment is tomorrow, and it will be another 90 days till i actually get the permit...
 
Chris, ditto to what zoom6zoom said. I moved to Woodbridge, Va in late November of 2007 from maryland. Put in my paperwork to the Prince William county clerk on the 15 of January 2008. Received my permit in the mail Febuary 14. Time to go to the county courthouse, be polite, smile,and stand on somebodys desk till you get your permit.
 
Utah (Sent 03/10/07 Received 07/26/07)
New Hampshire (Sent 08/06/07 Received 08/31/07)
Virginia (Sent 08/16/07 Received 09/28/07)
Connecticut (Sent 08/16/07 Received 09/28/07)
Florida (Sent 08/16/07 Received 10/26/07)
Maine (Sent 08/16/07 Received 12/31/07)
 
Go to http://www.vcdl.org/static/ccw.html to enlighten yerself AFA Concealed Carry laws, permits, procedures, etc.
While you're there, iff'n you don't join VCDL at least sign up for their free e-mails! They're darn informative, and these guys at VCDL are arguably one of the best gun rights organizations around.
PS...betcha after checking out their work it'll be difficult NOT to join!
 
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Since the fingerprints are optional; I find the localities that require them are staffed by little tyrants that wish they could ban CCW but since they can't will delay as much as possible. I know, my permit came from Newport News. Where you actually need a gun within 4 blocks of the city hall.
 
Don't know about VA but Idaho (also shall issue) in Ada county has gone from an average 2 week waiting period to about 2 months.

It is being caused by the very high number of people applying for a CWL, same thing could be happening there.
 
I know I posted this way back when but I can't find it on search so I'm re-posting...

Dear VCDL,

I thought you might enjoy the following tale of my quest to get a CHL permit in Arlington, VA. In order to protect both the guilty and the innocent I have removed all names from this account and would ask that my name be withheld as well.

I finally had all of the required paperwork collected including my “proof of competence” so I thought it was high time to get this process underway thus on 11/21/2006 I got up early and headed over to the Circuit Court office (open at 8:00am). I still needed to be fingerprinted and that was when I discovered that the Sheriff’s office only fingerprints from 1:30pm to 4:00pm. Well, that meant that I was a little late to work and still hadn’t accomplished my mission but that was okay. Had I read the SHERIFFS webpage and not just the CIRCUIT COURT webpage I would have seen the fingerprinting information clearly listed.

So on 11/28/2006 I took time off from work and returned to the Arlington courthouse to get my fingerprints done and turn in all the completed paperwork. This process went very smoothly and everyone involved was extremely professional and courteous. The pleasant lady at the Circuit Court Clerk’s desk advised me that unless I was denied I would receive a call from their office within 45 days to let me know I could pick up my permit.

Due to the holidays and such the 45 days passed quickly but when the magic day of 1/12/2007 rolled around I heard...nothing. No permit received in mail, no phone call from clerk’s office. Well I figured that we’d had several holidays and such to interrupt “business as usual” so I decided I would give the process a few more days before following up. We passed 1/13/07-1/15/07 (Saturday, Sunday, and Martin Luther King day) and into that Tuesday.

Finally on 1/18/2007 (Day 51) I called the Circuit Court office and spoke with a very pleasant young lady who apologized profusely and explained that things were a little backed up from the holidays. Upon checking computer records she told me she saw no indication that I had been denied so, at minimum, I would be issued a 90 day temporary permit. I asked her if I could get that the next day and she said yes and apologized again for the delay

1/19/2007 - at 10:30am I called the Circuit Court office, and spoke with the same lady from the previous day. I told her that I would be coming to the Circuit Court office at 3:00pm and could they please make sure my temporary permit was ready. I also hinted that I would be delighted if it was, in fact, my actual permit. I took more time off from work (this being the 3’rd time) and arrived promptly at 3:00pm.

After a short wait in line I let the clerk know why I was there and was told “I’m sorry, it’s not ready”. I asked if she (the clerk) could explain and was told “I’m sorry but Richmond hasn’t been responding to our requests and I just got authorizations about 30 minutes ago”. She then held up this large armful of papers and said “I have all this work to do and I don’t know if there is anything we can do about it (my permit) today”. (the implication being that since it was 3:00pm and they close at 4:00pm there wouldn’t be time).

For me that was really the final straw. I switched to my best polite-but-firm voice and proceeded to advise her that while I understood that they were backed up from the holidays and such, I had given the process several extra days, had called in earlier to confirm that my temporary permit would be ready today, had received confirmation that it would be ready, and had given them the full working day to have it ready.

I also advised her that although she had my sympathy regarding her workload and the unresponsiveness of Richmond, we were well past the 45 day limit required by law and that, since I had not been rejected, the Circuit Court office was now required by law to furnish me with either a 90 day temporary permit, or my actual permit, and I wanted it before the close of business because I had already taken as much time off from work as I was going to in connection with this process. (I also placed a copy of the relevant portions of the VA Code on the counter at this point).

This really appeared to shake a few people in the office up a bit. Another lady then came up to the counter and politely asked me if I would please wait for a few minutes. I agreed and sat down to wait. After about 15 minutes of waiting (and being stared at by the secretaries) the third lady returned and said that as soon as she could find a judge to “sign off” (on what I don’t know) she would be able to issue me a permit. Roughly 15 minutes after that the second lady came out to me with, not a 90 day temporary, but my actual CHL permit. Paperwork was signed, I thanked all concerned for their effort, and I was on my way.

FIN

P.S. I would like to thank the members of VCDL, especially our President, Philip Van Cleave, for their quick and informative responses when I had questions during this process. If it weren’t for the “advance prep work” I doubt I would have been ready to stand my ground at the Circuit Court office.

P.P.S. Arlington’s permit is CHEESY! It’s just computer printed on a piece of cardstock. After some thought I decided to laminate it myself lest it simply disintegrate in my wallet over time.
 
Go in and demand your permit if you are past 45 days (calendar days) as they are in violation of the law. If they refuse or drag their feet contact the VA supreme court and explain the situation. The VA supreme court is very interested in counties that are not issuing permits within the alloted 45 day window. Also shoot Phil @ VCDL a email and tell him you're being delayed.
 
The "shall issue" states are being bombarded with applications. Almost all are running behind.
Give the boy and girls at the licensing office a break. They're not your enemy.

AFS
 
As mentioned in VA they must approve or reject your application within 45 days. What typically happens is they process the paperwork in a few days and then sit on it for a month. They then mail it out so it arrives just in time for the deadline.
 
+1 for TennVOL's advice, and specifically, you want to contact the office of the Chief Justice. Make sure you're nice when you go, though. It's possible it truly just fell through the cracks and that there's nothing insidious going on.
 
I agree that the county clerk may 'sit' on the application until the end of the 45 day time period (44 here with a squeaky clean background), but the law is 45. But I think "laws" with no effective sanction aren't always complied with readily, and if a county wants to drag its feet it'll probably get away with it until a lot of folks complain.
 
huh I was told I should expect my permit in.... 4 months :( ! I'm in D-town Michigan, and Michigan is a shall issue state is it not? I'm going to have to check this 45 day rule!
 
Note, the "45 calender day" rule is specific to Virginia law and is very clearly spelled out. It may not (probably does not) apply to other locations.
 
90 days here in SC, and they took every bit of that, and then some. After about the 110th day, I called SLED and they said they mailed it, and to check with the post office. Post office has no record of it. Called SLED again. They (supposedly) mailed another one. Waited a week. Never arrived. Checked with the post office. No record of it.

Called SLED again, and they said they'd mail me another one, but they'd have to charge me for it, as I'm only allowed one free replacement. I told them that I never got an original, so it's not a replacement. Then they told me that it must be the fault of my postal carrier.

That's when I got "Less-than-High-Road" with the lady and, in no uncertain terms, explained that it's unlikely the fault of my mail lady, seeing as how I've always recieved every other parcel on time for as long as I've owned the house, and that it was certainly the fault of their little podunk, backwoods excuse for a state law enforcement agency.

Called up the head of their regulatory division, got my permit one week later. Just a handwritten, scribbled envelope with my permit dumped in there. :banghead:
 
...the third lady returned and said that as soon as she could find a judge to “sign off” (on what I don’t know) she would be able to issue me a permit.

The physical permit must be signed by a judge or the clerk of the court if the judges do not want to.
A judge STILL has to actually approve the clerk signing.

When I lived in Arlington County they used up every day of the limit, 90 the first time and 45 for a renewal.

They nearly choked when they could no longer require fingerprints on renewals.

The state police handle the out of state requests, NOT the local courts.
 
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