U.S. Government wants to buy 92,000,000 rounds of 7.62 X 39

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Plus 40,000,000 rounds of 9 mm. And the ammo is not even for us. :uhoh:

http://www.fbo.gov/spg/USA/USAMC/DAAA09/W52P1J07R0104/Modification 01.html
Various Nonstandard Ammunition for Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, Afghanistan National Security Forces and the Government of Iraq. The US Army Sustainment Command (ASC) intends to issue a Request for Proposal (RFP), W52P1J-07-R-0104, to the Army Single Face to Industry Web(ASFI) at https://acquisition.army.mil/asfi/ on or about June 20, 2007 with a closing date of 30 days after issuance. This is a Foreign Military Sales RFP for FY 2007 Afghanistan and Iraq requirements.

Due to the importance of deliveries and the volume of ammunition required, the Government will award individual contracts for the three (3) requirements (1 for the Afghanistan requirements and 2 for the Iraq requirements). All three requirements shall all be firm-fixed price with 100% options. Options may be exercised within 3 months of contract award. Although offerors are restricted to a single Iraq award, it may be eligible for the Afghanistan award also. The materiel must be from new production or new surplus manufactured within last 20 years and serviceable without qualifications.

The following is a list of items that will be solicited:

AFGHANISTAN REQUIREMENTS LISTING ITEM, WEAPON SYSTEM, QTY
- 40MM SPONGE ROUND, MOSSBERG M590A1, 20,613
- 40MM 60 CAL STINGER, MOSSBERG M590A1, 20,505
- 40MM LIQUID FERRET-CS, MOSSBERG M590A1, 20,500
- STINGER RUBBER BALL GRENADE, N/A, 10,000
- OC/CS AEROSOL GRENADE, N/A, 10,000
- HC MILITARY STYLE SMOKE, N/A, 10,000
- MULTI-PORT PLUS FLASH BANG, N/A, 10,000
- MULTI-PORT PLUS 15 GRAM RELOAD, N/A, 10,000
- 12 GAUGE BEAN BAG, MOSSBERG M590A1, 800
- 12 GAUGE LAUNCHING ROUND (SPECIAL), MOSSBERG M590A1, 400
- 12 GAUGE RUBBER FIN STABILIZED, MOSSBERG M590A1, 950
- GRENADE RUBBER/STING BALL, MOSSBERG M590A1, 100
- GRENADE HAND NL M84, MOSSBERG M590A1, 100
- CANISTER GRENADE CS PYRO LOW FLAME, N/A, 97
- FLASH BANG, TRAINING FUSE & BODY, N/A, 50
- HC SMOKE WHITE FLAMELESS CANISTER, N/A, 6
- GRENADE STING BALL OC, N/A, 4
- LAUNCHING CUP 12 GAUGE CANISTER, MOSSBERG M590A1, 10
- LAUNCHING CUP 12 GAUGE STRING BALL, MOSSBERG M590A1, 10
- MK9 OC SPRAY CANISTER, N/A, 25
- MK4 STREAMER CANISTER OC, N/A, 75
- MK9 FOGGER OC, N/A, 20
- PISTOL GRIP CROWD CONTROL OC SPRAY, N/A, 5
- PG-7VM, 70.5MM STD HEAT, RPG-7 LAUNCHER, 576
- PG-7VL, 93MM STD HEAT, RPG-7 LAUNCHER, 216
- AMMO BELT W/CAN FOR 7.62X54MM (250 ROUND), PKM, 4,000
- AMMO BELT W/CAN FOR 12.7X108MM (50-70 ROUND), YAKB 1,000
- AMMO BELT FOR 30MM MACHINE GUN, GSH-30, 500
- LINKING MACHINE FOR 7.62X54MM, PKM MACHINE GUN, 40
- LINKING MACHINE FOR 12.7X108MM, YAKB, 20
- LINKING MACHINE FOR 30MM MACHINE GUN, GSH-30, 10
- SPG-9 PROPELLANT (ELECTRICALLY IGNITED, GROUND MOUNT), SPG-9, 10,000

IRAQ A REQUIREMENTS ITEM, WEAPON SYSTEM, QTY
- 12 GAUGE BREACHING ROUND, MOSSBERG SHOTGUN, 2,500
- 9MM BALL, GLOCK PISTOL, 24,000,000
- 7.62 X 39MM BALL, AK47 ASSAULT RIFLE, 55,200,000
- 7.62 X 54MM BALL W/ LINKS, PKM MACHINE GUN, 18,000,000
- OG-7V 40MM HE, RPG-7 GRENADE LAUNCHER, 20,000
- 7.62 X 54MM SNIPER, SVD SNIPER RIFLE, 2,500
- HC MILITARY STYLE SMOKE WHITE, N/A, 1,000

IRAQ B REQUIREMENTS ITEM, WEAPON SYSTEM, QTY
- 9MM BALL, GLOCK PISTOL, 16,000,000
- 7.62 X 39MM BALL, AK47 ASSAULT RIFLE, 36,800,000
- 7.62 X 54MM BALL W/ LINKS, PKM MACHINE GUN, 12,000,000

- The weapons in this synopsis are for reference purposes only, the intent of this procurement is to purchase the ammunition for the weapons listed above. Delivery and FOB terms shall be included in the solicitation. All contractors who provide goods/services to the Department of Defense (DOD) must be registered in the Central Contractors Register (CCR). If you are not registered in CCR, you cannot be awarded a DoD contract. The Internet site for registering in the C CR is http://www.ccr.gov/. You may also contact the CCR Registration Assistance Center at 1-888-227-2423, customer service, and request the registration form and assistance packet for completion. Direct any questions prior to the applicable closing date in writing to: Headquarters, US Army Sustainment Command, ATTN: AMSAS-ACA-R/Gerry Haan 1 Rock Island Arsenal, Rock Island, IL 61299-6500 telephone number (309) 782-5155.
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Wonder if this surge in demand will have an effect on ammo prices? :uhoh:
 
Wonder how your taxpayer bought ammo will get expended? A bullet has no brain. The Hamas dudes in the Gaza are burning lots of 7.62x39, it comes from somewhere. If I thought that we could control it's usage against bad guys I would feel much better.
Good news is that once production increases to meet demand we might see more ammo available down the road.
Cork
 
So not only do they waste my tax money on this pointless nonsense, but they also drive the price of ammo ridiculously high... :banghead:
 
- 40MM SPONGE ROUND, MOSSBERG M590A1, 20,613
- 40MM 60 CAL STINGER, MOSSBERG M590A1, 20,505
- 40MM LIQUID FERRET-CS, MOSSBERG M590A1, 20,500
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What is a sponge round?

Holy cow, they have an atomic weasel launcher! I thought the Hague treaty outlawed those things! :evil:
 
I'm just wondering how much of this will get shot back at our troops. It wouldn't be the first time, after all.
 
I used to work at a box factory. We made a RIDICULOUS AMOUNT of double walled ammo boxes that held 1000 rounds a piece of 5.56 ammo for a company called "Alliance Lake City, Small" that's the name that showed up at my box press anyhow.

The boxes were small and easy to make (single color label - black) so I used to love to see these orders. They were long runs... around 5000 boxes at a time, and they came up every few weeks or so on my shift...don't know how often the other TWO shifts ran those boxes. so... 5000 boxes * 1000 rds ea = 5,000,000 rds of 5.56 that they've got boxes for at least.

"Alliance Lake City, Small" would save money if they would have asked to have more than a few pallets of these boxes shipped at a time, so I'm guessing that they were producing around 5 million rounds every few weeks and using up the boxes.
 
7.62x39, it explains why CheaperThanDirt has raised their prices on Wolf Military Classic by 30 dollars in the last month on a case of 1000 rds.
 
Sponge round is M1006 is called a ''non-lethal'' (I know spare me). It is actually made out of foam rubber sponge with knock down power at 10-50 meters.

Liquid Ferret is a commercial brand of CS.

It looks like someone got their columns mixed up on the contract somewhere with the Mossberg shot guns in there.
 
IRAQ A REQUIREMENTS ITEM, WEAPON SYSTEM, QTY
- 12 GAUGE BREACHING ROUND, MOSSBERG SHOTGUN, 2,500
- 9MM BALL, GLOCK PISTOL, 24,000,000
- 7.62 X 39MM BALL, AK47 ASSAULT RIFLE, 55,200,000
- 7.62 X 54MM BALL W/ LINKS, PKM MACHINE GUN, 18,000,000
- OG-7V 40MM HE, RPG-7 GRENADE LAUNCHER, 20,000
- 7.62 X 54MM SNIPER, SVD SNIPER RIFLE, 2,500
- HC MILITARY STYLE SMOKE WHITE, N/A, 1,000

IRAQ B REQUIREMENTS ITEM, WEAPON SYSTEM, QTY
- 9MM BALL, GLOCK PISTOL, 16,000,000
- 7.62 X 39MM BALL, AK47 ASSAULT RIFLE, 36,800,000
- 7.62 X 54MM BALL W/ LINKS, PKM MACHINE GUN, 12,000,000
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Sucks for all of us that picked up SKS, AK, mosins and 9mms because 45 and 223/308 prices were going through the roof. The contract does allow surplus though, what do you think the chances are that they are going to use some of that mountain of chinese 7.62x39 that we can't buy:scrutiny:
 
I'm surprised though, that it lists 40mm rounds, then says it's for a Mossberg 590.
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The projectile is 40 mm (1 3/5”) long? Or are these like the old tear gas grenades that used to fit on the end of shotguns, like a WW II rifle grenade? I don't know, I'm just asking...

On another issue, why are the variety of “less-lethal” rounds for Afghanistan, and the small variety of large quantities of “more-lethal” rounds for Iraq? Can we assume it is believed things are settling down in Afghanistan? And it is believed it is not likely to settle down in Iraq any time soon (at least not until after 92,000,000 rounds of 7.62 X 39)? Of course we don’t know how much ammo the Afghanistan government has left over from previous governments. I get the impression the most (all) of the ammo from the Hussein government is now in the hands of the insurgents.
 
That's about enough 7.62x39mm to give every American gun owner one round.

One in eight would get 2.

Just trying to put the number into perspective.
 
I'm not against the war but after it's over I figure we are going to get great prices on 9mm, 7.62x51, 7.62x39 and 5.56. I'm ready. Last cases I bought of .223 Federal NATO 55gr white box was $150/1000 with $12 shipping. IMI SS109 in 30 rd boxes was $199/1200. Now the same ammo is about $350. This wasn't in the dark ages either. We're talking '04 or '05. Joe
 
You actually think...

they will sell the surplus to us? How long have you watched our gubment? It will be destroyed so that it cannot harm anyone....
 
we aren't just paying for their ammo, we are paying for every single thing going on in their country.

since the beginning of the war, they are still not generating any oil nor revenue of their own. our tax dollars buy their food, fuel, toilet paper, roads, houses, military, water...everything. most of that money that has been "spent" is not accounted for.
 
We buy them ammo so corrupt Iraqi military soldiers can sell it to insurgents. Complete BS. If the Iraqis need ammo they should buy it themselves.
 
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