What do you mean "when are citizens going to draw the line?"
They already did. Don't you remember? It was in all the papers. It caused a civil war, and the ones standing up for their constitutional rights (eg: secession a form of free association) were the ones who lost the war.
Ever since then, its just been a massive snowball picking up speed....
Course, I know what you mean. And I don't know the answer to that.
Honestly, I suspect if someone stood up to JBTs breaking down the door, this forum would be flooded with people calling for his head and praising the JBTs. Well, maybe half of them would take that position... but in the greater gun culture movement, the majority would take the JBTs side. (Assuming it was suspicion of "drugs" or "terrorism" was the excuse used, as opposed to a raid cause someone was behind on their taxes.) All the governmet has to do is come up with an excuse that people in the gun culture --- generally very republican, and thus pro "law and order" will accept and nobody will say boo. (look at the outpouring of sympathy rick stanley gets)
So, in answer to the question of "how much"... a hell of a lot more than we're getting now. People are not ready to stand up to the government, and I understand that-- its hard to know where the line is, and the costs are very high.
They will cross that line, en masse, when the cost of not standing up to tyranny is higher than the cost of standing their ground.
Since tyranny tries to make rebellion expensive and complaince cheap (in the short term) I think that line is a long way off.... say 3 or 4 months at least.
Seriously, I'm certainly not prepared for this to happen, and it seems that nobody has a plan... and as long as nobody has a plan, the costs of standing up will be far too high. IT takes planning, or at least a common idea of a common MO.
And furthermore, before people do that, shouldn't we be trying to press our case in the courts? Isn't it time for a lot of lawsuits to get rid of these laws? We should be able to find ways to sue to undo laws without having to have someone convicted under the law before hand (I'm not clear on that issue)....I'm surprised we aren't taking our case to court.
I wrote a lot of senators, presidents and congress people in my time, and I just got tired of letter after letter from them..... never a response that recognized or responded to my argument, and all these letters are bland bull???? like "I support the second ammendment, that's why I want to take assault weapons off the streets." They are NOT listening.
The only way to get polticians attention if you want to go that route, would be to start running hit piece TV commercials for their opponents. Like "Did you know that Joe Republican Incumbant voted three times to leave america defenseless to terrorists? Bill Republican Challenger promises to stay true to the constitution and repeal all the laws that prevent the average american from doing their part to protect the country. A vote for Incumbant is a vote for terrorism, and against the right of self defense. Do you want to be defenseless?"
THAT would get their attention. Anything less, you're just pissing in the wind. Do it if it makes y ou feel good, but they are NOT listening.
They hold you in CONTEMPT. You need to realize that. You're just little people and they care more about their careers and their money flow than your life. And this goes for politicians from both parties. (Excepting Ron Paul, of course. He's decent.)
Write letters if it makes you feel good, but I spend the time and energy I would doing that in supporting more direct actions, such as lawsuits and no-compromise gun rights organizations.
But it really is an economic question. At some point the cost will be too high and people will shrug. At some point, a critical mass will decide that they are damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Jews in Germany did not see the writing on the wall. We see it, but we have to make sure we don't end up like them:
In denial way past the tipping point.
Don
