Uh Ohh....."Honestly,someone stole it, officer"

[tigre]

Technically,you are correct.

Well, it was a 7-year-old walking around holding a loaded gun without supervision (a 7yo we cannot assume to be familiar with firearms). To me that doesn't necessarily seem like a shining moment for Eddie Eagle. I'm curious who this guy was that she gave the gun to, and where her parents were.

4 steps with no mis-steps is not too many.

I mean it's too many because two of the steps are redundant. If you're not touching, you've already stopped. Stopping is part of not touching. In order to tell an adult you're going to have to leave the immediate area, unless there's already an adult in the area, and then there's supervision so there's probably not a problem. Really, you just need to not touch it and tell an adult. There's no reason to teach a four-step process when a two-step process gives the same information, especially when you're dealing with kids.

 

[Duke Junior]

Well, it was a 7-year-old walking around holding a loaded gun without supervision (a 7yo we cannot assume to be familiar with firearms). To me that doesn't necessarily seem like a shining moment for Eddie Eagle. I'm curious who this guy was that she gave the gun to, and where her parents were.

I give up. Eddie Eagle dims.At 9 I was going from Greensboro to NYC on my own by train.
It's all in the perspective.
To me the girl did good. Analyze it to death .2 steps,3 steps,4 steps, to me she got the job done.

 

[Treo]

SC,

Could be worse you could be in Omaha

 

[Elza]

againstthagrane: what is the "30.06" statute?

Under Texas law any establishment that wishes to prohibit CCW must post a sign in accordance with Section 30.06 of the Texas Penal Code. It is a very strict standard for the signage. Anything else is not enforceable.

I refuse to believe that “30.06” just happened to be the next code number for this law. Someone in Austin has to have a sense of humor!

 

[Kind of Blued]

I'm glad this didn't turn out worse than it did.

The guy got lucky. Very lucky.

 

[ny32182]

According to SC CCW law, you can't carry in the following:

-Classic list of specifically prohibited places like schools, govt buildings, places that serve alcohol, post office; all the usual suspects. If you ignore this and get caught I believe you can be charged with a serious crime, though I don't recall exactly what the charge is.

-In addition, can't carry in any place that posts the *correct* signage as outlined earlier in the thread. If you ignore an incorrect sign, there is no consequence. If you ignore the correct sign, you can be charged with trespassing.

SO, assuming the sign was a correct one, he is being charged correctly, and is not getting any sort of "break" based on that particular law. HOWEVER, in all my years of carrying in SC, I've only seen one correct sign; at an IHOP in Myrtle Beach. So if the sign at the mall was incorrect, he should be able to successfully fight the trespassing charge in court. All the above assuming his CW permit was valid.

That is how the CCW aspect of the law works. Now, if they can't find something else to charge him with based on the fact that he left a loaded handgun on a playground, I'll be real surprised. And that will have nothing to do with the CCW laws.

I grew up on the Fort Mill area, but that was years ago and I am not familiar with that particular location.

 

[ny32182]

If nothing else, I'm sure they will get him for "brandishing" or something like that.

 

[SCKimberFan]

ny32182 -

It is the Crossroads Outlet Mall at Carowinds entrance. It now caters to the Hispanic population of the Charlotte area.

 

[7.62X25mm]

How can you drop your handgun and not notice?

 

[ny32182]

SC,

Ah yes, I am familiar with that spot. Its about ten minutes from where I grew up.

Well hopefully the guy will pull his head out of his rectal cavity if he ever gets a second chance.

 

[Duke Junior]

How can you drop your handgun and not notice?

But he managed this stupidity and this is why I believe the 7 year old should be commended.
Had she went off to alert an adult, leaving the gun in the open,another smaller child or one with less commonsense could have picked the gun up and killed or injured themselves or someone else.
In most cases, I agree the child should alert an adult without touching.But there always will be exceptions and in this case,a smart young girl seems to have made the right call.

 

[SCKimberFan]

Here is a link to another story on this with a bit more info.

http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/stories/wcnc-091508-krg-gun.7ce2295f.html

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

i'll be darned the penalty is loss of permit for a year? if it happens again? thats a wrist slap

 

[Duke Junior]

"It really disgusted me the fact that somebody would bring a weapon in here," said customer Mark O’Day.

Well,obviously,even with the stupidity by Mr.Roberts,Mark O'Day needs a few Constitutional lessons.
The O'Day's, in so many respects, are even more threatening to the RKBA's than the Roberts'.

Child finds loaded gun at mall playground

06:08 AM EDT on Tuesday, September 16, 2008

By MARIO ROLDAN / NewsChannel 36
E-mail Mario: [email protected]
Young girl finds gun; man arrested

FORT MILL, S.C. -- Parents at a popular playground got a major scare after a little girl found a loaded handgun and picked it up.

"Oh my God," said Plaza Fiesta patron Ana Moreno. "Imagine if the little girl would try to use it, be curious about it."

The playground is inside the Plaza Fiesta shopping center in Fort Mill near Carowinds. Saturday afternoon, a 7-year-old girl grabbed the 22 magnum from the playground and handed it over to security, according to investigators.

"It really disgusted me the fact that somebody would bring a weapon in here," said customer Mark O’Day.

Anthony Roberts, 31, claimed ownership of the gun. York County sheriff’s deputies arrested him.

"It’s a big playground, a lot of kids running around here," said O’Day. "It could have been horrible, a little kid with a gun."

Roberts told investigators he must have dropped his gun when he went into the playground to pick up his son. He returned and approached a security guard asking to get his pistol back.

"No guns, knives or weapons allowed on premises," read signs at Plaza Fiesta.

Even though Roberts carries a concealed weapons permit, the Lancaster man faces a misdemeanor trespassing charge.

Under South Carolina law, Roberts could lose his permit for up to a year if he’s charged a second time.

 

[ScottsGT]

Sign is WRONG for SC.

 

[ny32182]

In that case it should be a clear cut aquittal on the trespassing charge, I believe.

 

[LaVere]

I remember several years back. I dropped my kahr k40. I was middle of winter maybe 20 degree I was wearing wool shirt big goose down coat over that " Think Michelin man". The gun was in a IWB holster in my pants. I got out about 1/2 block from my driveway to remove the new frost that built up since I left my driveway. I must have bent over the front fender and scraped away. And it fell off holster and all. I could not feel anything missing. When I got to the restaurant and removed my Down coat. I felt it missing.
I went to my car immediately. Not there. Went back to the only other place I stopped. There it was "ON" the top of the snow bank where it fell. Since there was no or little traffic on my street no one saw it.
I was sure up set that morning. It can happen.

 

[SCKimberFan]

LaVere

I can understand it with all the clothing on you had on. However, in Fort Mill SC where this took place, it was probably close to 90 that day, so I am certain he wasn't wearing a parka.

 

[ny32182]

How could anything get way up under a parka to pull a holstered gun out from inside the waistband of your pants? I'd think with a parka on, the chances of that happening to a correctly holstered gun would be even more miniscule than if the gun was completely uncovered.

 

[Heartless_Conservative]

The article said it was a .22 magnum. NAA mini-revolver perhaps? I've heard they're pretty tiny, still pretty darn irresponsible though. I can't see how something can just fall out of someone's pocket (well there was one time my pocket knife fell out of my pocket, but that was because it had worn a hole through the bottom).

 

[siglite]

Wasn't there a thread around here a while back about a cop that left his firearm in an airport bathroom? Wasn't there universal and venomous condemnation of the aforementioned cop?

Was that because they're better trained than us, and should know better? You know, those cops that've had all that training that qualifies them to carry firearms, as such, we should not? That training?

Or was it simply because he was a cop?

See, I'm the first guy to scream loud when I see police misconduct. But let me tell you, hypocrisy is one of my biggest pet peeves. And boy are we sure quick to crucify some cop who does this. How about we hold each other to the same standard.

This case is absurdly irresponsible. And no one should be making apologies or coming up with "understandable scenarios" for it to happen. This is outrageous negligence, and nothing more.

 

[SCKimberFan]

siglite,

I think most of the posts were calling this person irresponsible. There may have been 1 or 2 that gave him more of a pass. I am of the former group. People like this guy who is that careless about his weapon should NOT have a permit to carry it.

Events of this nature cast a negative light on responsible gun owners. We can have 25 positive stories about responsible gun owners defending themselves or others, but when something like this happens, it gets the attention, which then takes 25 more positive stories to begin to turn public opinion back to the positive side.

 

[deadin]

In the service we used to say that one "AW****" cancelled out 25 "ATTABOYS"

 

[Officers'Wife]

Hi Hopelessjoe

How about the time you busted the speed record to get to work on time?

So one wrong justifies the other? When discovered stupid behavior needs to have consequences.

You aren't allowed to be the judge until you can be a compassionate and intelligent jury member.

A judge's duty is to interpret the law and the jury member's duty is to weigh the facts and decide guilt beyond the shadow of doubt or not. Neither requires compassion, only intelligence and common sense.

Selena