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UK: 14,000 knife victims a year

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by sacp81170a, Jul 6, 2008.

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  1. sacp81170a

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    "14,000 knife victims a year"

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/14000-knife-victims-a-year-860857.html


    How do you regain control in a society that has effectively denied self defense to law abiding citizens? It would be easy to say restore gun rights and the right to defend oneself, but it simply wouldn't be pulled off overnight. I don't want to turn this into a slamfest against the UK, but rather to spark discussion. Reviving a gun culture would seem to be an almost impossible task. Given the task of remedying the state of affairs described in the article, what's a reasonable course of action?
     
  2. GlowinPontiac

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    Even if they start now it will take decades to overturn the UK's innumerable weapons laws.
    When the peoples mindset has degraded to the point that the criminal has more rights than the victim there is sadly not much that can be done without a radical change in the government.

    I'm sure the UK will enact a new set of laws to ban any and all knives so that the criminal will just use something else as a weapon.
     
  3. Gunnerpalace

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    You don't, England is in the death spiral, THR's from there need to exfill while they still can.
     
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    Install more cameras, obviously.


    ::sarcasm::
     
  5. TallPine

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    Well, what I want to know is how many are hurt and killed by spears "twice as long as a man" ???

    Anybody wanna take a stab at answering that question? ;)
     
  6. LAR-15

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    They should just ban knives and be done with it.
     
  7. Picard

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    They know they can't ban knives. Eventually they'll have to control the crime problem at the source since it seems they've exhausted all the other options.
     
  8. pyle

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    If we weren't reading about knives it would be about "heads bashed in by stones" - then they would ban stones. Most of those folks are so brainwashed against guns and self-defense - I truly believe they think human beings are supposed to be sheep - it's very sad......
     
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    [tears, streaming down face] Funniest thing I've heard in days. [/tears]
     
  10. Fburgtx

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    When they ban the knives, then the criminals will start using cricket bats. Then, it will be heavy/thick-soled boots that they ban.

    Men have been perpetrating violence on one another for thousands of years. I don't expect it to end anytime soon...
     
  11. Evenflo76

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    They should just ban Hands. That way...
     
  12. protolith

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    Unfortunately they already have!!! I **** you not!

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3181965.ece

    If it didn't say "the times", I'd swear this was the Onion. Very very sad but true.

    They now have knife bans that are almost as bad as the DC gun ban (at least thats been neutered) Chefs have to carry their knifes in locked boxes of face a dangerous weapons charge!

    I'm sure our friends from the near east will be chiming in soon with their take on these things.

    When I first heard about knife bans in the UK, I knew there would soon be headlines about "knife crime being out of control!" and here it is, all part of a panic driven cycle that can only lead to a nanny state of the most ridiculous proportions.

    I swear if someone doesn't put a stop to it the UK will be a nation using plastic sporks and round end scissors, while asking for hall passes to move around their supposed "Free" country.

    This sort of thing makes me throw up a little in my mouth every time someone says "it so much better in Europe, I wish it was more like that here."

    /rant
     
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    Recently the prospects of visiting the UK have dropped down on my list of places I'd like to visit someday...It really is a shame that this is one or two generations removed from Churchill and the Blitz...they have fallen so far in a short time; cameras on every street corner, TV registration, heck even the Soviets weren't that bad.
     
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    according to World Factbook the population of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales) was just under 61 million in 2007.
     
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    When the average Brit finally gets fed up where will the next group of pilgrams go??

    It's to bad but the UK is turning into what it was like when the Kings and Queens ruled..

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    It's sad to note how quickly the UK has long since forgotten their dire need, as the Blitz wore on, and they girded for defense of their very shores. Arms were in extremely short supply, and good citizens of America organized efforts to collect donated weapons from American sportsmen.

    It's also sad to note those same weapons, donated to keep Hitler's wolves from the doorway of the British Isles, have long since been destroyed by a government bent on creating a nation of capons.
     
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    The highest percentage jump in knife attacks, per the article, happened in the under 18 populations, which gun ban or not are too young to own a firearm.
     
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    If you want a serious answer, they can get a lot of the problem fixed by building prisons and filling them. Crime is always and everywhere a consequence of the presence of criminals. Remove the criminals by means of long-term incarceration, and the crime will go away.


    America has the highest rate of incarceration in the world and we need it. Without that our country would be a hellhole with or without the 2nd Amendment. Guns will only get you so far.


    Britain needs a much higher incarceration rate.


    Now, if they could increase the respect for marriage, decrease illegitimacy, eliminate public drunkness, start believing in God, and pry their sorry asses off the couch, they could do with far fewer prisons. But that's asking too much.
     
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    Obviously there is something wrong in that country, and the injuries are no laughing matter. However, I'm not sure that their experience is truly different from our own.

    Guns, their proper use and CCW permits are very important to staunch members of THR. However, that's not the norm. Most people in states with "shall issue" laws never apply for a license. Clearly, half of the population doesn't own a gun of any kind.

    I live in Wisconsin, the worst of both conditions. We have no CCW permits, and not everyone hunts. Madison is often referred to as "25 square miles surrounded by reality."

    I carry superior cutting tools because that's my trade. Virtually any person I meet is at a disadvantage. The best they have is "harsh language."

    In effect, the circumstances of my average day replicate that of England.

    The bottom line is Gov. Jim Doyle with his head in the sand. And like England, you can snow him under with police info, ER statistics and pictures of the victims, and the political agenda always seems to win out over flesh and blood.
     
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    Call this guy obviously:

    V_for_Vendetta.jpg

    But seriously, the English need to make some very serious changes in their society before the social decay becomes too much for their society.
     
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    Because clearly religion brings out the best in people!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Ttt, Europe...


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    Oh shi-
     
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    Hk G3 - you got his number? 'Cause no-one seems to be answering when I call...

    (Incidentally, if you'd read the graphic novel then you might have some severe misgivings about calling V... ;) )
     
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    That Mothers Against Murder And Aggression group is very scary:

    - From http://www.mamaa.org/new060208.html

    This strikes me as...very faulty logic.
     
  25. La Pistoletta

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    I guess they'll have to fistfight their attackers from now on. Hopefully the only violent criminals will be old grandmothers.

    Not likely, though. Oh and they just might wear knives anyway while the innocents don't, hmm...

    I vote for more cameras.
     
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