Ultrasonic Cleaning

Status
Not open for further replies.

psyshack

Member
Joined
Jan 23, 2011
Messages
563
Location
Oklahoma
Went to Harbor Freight yesterday and picked up there larger Chicago Electric Ultrasonic cleaner. This one looks like and basically is the base unit used for the Lyman unit. It has one transducer with a heater. It will get the water hot! I've found no spec's on the transducer (speaker :D). It will put holes in aluminum foil in very short order and roll the water.

I had just returned from the range and had shot my CZ-52 with corrosive ammo and my M&P 45 with my reloads.

The CZ-52 was first: This pistol barrel has had a complete reverse electrolysis cleaning. It is very accurate! Clays at a 100 free hand if I do my part with surplus ammo. Off rest no problem. When I reparked it. The bore of the barrel got done also. The barrel is pitted and some would call it black. So after shooting I did my normal cleaning job on it. THEN I dropped it in the Ultrasonic. Used water, 2 oz simple green concentrate and a squirt of dawn. Black crap came flowing out of the barrel alone with micro chunks of junk on a 480 sec. run. I then took a patch to it again and got all sorts of black and rust crap out of it. After two more runs through the unit and two more patch jobs the bore was clean! Not even a spec of stain, dirt, rust, jacket or powder fouling left. Patches went in clean and came out clean.

I did no pre cleaning on the M&P .45 barrel. Just threw it in a fresh mix of solution and went after it. One 480 sec. run and it was spotless. Patched out clean.

I then moved on to brass. I had 200 rounds of .40 I threw in. Used water, 2 oz of white vinegar and a squirt of dawn. Ran them three times at 480 sec with heat of course. Dipped out most of the water I could get real quick. Refilled with water and added 1 tsp. of arm and hammer. ran for 180 sec. Pulled brass, rinsed in fresh water. Dried them in the oven in a old cake pan. They looked great and shootable. Me being the brass whore I am. I ran them for a hour in the tumbler. That put the finishing touch on the .40.

I then ran some .32 and .380 outdoor range pick up. The .32 went fine. No problems what so ever. Ran them like the .40, life was good.

When I went to run the .380 it wasn't going so well. The unit wasn't moving water like it had been nor was it screaming like it had. A fast look see, found the tray had bent and was pushing down on the bottom of the unit. Even with nothing loaded in the unit and the tray installed. I was acting like the thing had broke. Took the tray out and it was back. So I cut the little handle tabs off the tray and put it in upside down. This gave the bottom of the unit more breathing space. The unit was back to working like a charm. It finished up the .380's in short order. They look good.

By this point I had ran two barrels and 700 pieces of brass through the unit and made a modification. I was still wanting to put it through more work cycles. Sure I had firearm related stuff I could use. But I wanted the put the weenie to it. I wanted to see if I could break this china hunk of junk.

Didn't take long. I found a old rusted up 16 oz hammer. The head was covered in rust, glues, caulking and Lord only knows what. Mixed up a vinegar and dawn solution and had at it. After 5ea 480 sec runs the water was so mucky the unit stopped cleaning. Rinsed the hammer, cleaned out the unit and reloaded it. Ten more 480 sec cycles, the hammer was done. I was in the white and in drastic need of a good oiling. Sure,,,, the hammer could have been cleaned up in a sand blaster in a few sec's. of cleaned up with emery cloth in a few min's. But the Ultrasonic unit was there and was begging to be abused. :D The head of the hammer did look like it had been bead blasted.

Bottom Line: I like the unit. It will come in very handy. I see it being used to clean pistols up, clean up other small parts and the wifes jewel's, our glass's and other things around the house. It will not replace my tumbler. It looks to be a good aid to the tumbler. Or,, say a good replacement to walnut media. It seems to have more than enough power for what I need. And if you start with a warm water solution with the heater on it will get quite hot. If you start with cold tap water your going to be waiting awhile for it to make warm water.

To me it is worth the $69.00 plus tax I paid for it.
 
Now get yourself some of this;

http://www.hornady.com/store/Lock-N-Load-Sonic-Cleaner-Solution/



It's similar to your mix, says it contains citric acid, it also has some soap in it. I just bought some last fri., I've been cleaning some brass that was heavily corroded. It took every bit of verdigris off the cases, left an orange tint where it had been. A trip through the tumbler removed even that.

I also had gotten some new-unfired-.223 LC brass from Graf's. It had water stain corrosion all over it, really ugly!:barf: 3-480 sec. runs with it,(100 cases per batch), removed most of the staining, then a 2 hour tumble cleaned the rest.

The Hornady stuff is super concentrated, mixes at 40 parts water to 1 part case clean. Seems to be just the right mix.
 
Last edited:
WOW, THAT SH#T IS EXPENSIVE !

Pardon me, but gosh it is.

My vinegar mix is less than $2/gallon, depending on the price of vinegar...and works super good for me.
 
Try Lemishine from Walmart or citric acid powder. Either will clean the brass and will not eat out the brass if you forget the neutralizing step. Try cleaning a couple pieces of brass in your vinegar solution and simply rinse with water, then leave the brass out to dry for a few days. They will turn pink. Citric Acid does not attack the zinc in the brass like acetic acid (vinegar) does.

...and it's cheap too.

Check around the net for the right dilution. I think its somewhere on the order of 2-3 tsp/qt.
 
I used to use Janitor In A Drum, it was the unversal "clean-all" in the ultrasonics...
 
I have the same unit. I use lemishine in mine and works great. I bought some of the Harbor Freight powder, it was worthless for cleaning brass.
 
WOW, THAT SH#T IS EXPENSIVE !

Pardon me, but gosh it is.

My vinegar mix is less than $2/gallon, depending on the price of vinegar...and works super good for me.

I paid $18.99 at my LGS, like I said it mixes @ 40-1, so I think we're about the same cost. Works out to 60 cents/ounce of concentrate. 8 pints makes a gallon or around 4 bucks a gallon, not even close to your cost. BUT it's ultra convenient to grab the jug, measure and mix with water. Hornady advises to use distilled water, holy cow, then it would get expensive! Says to prevent water spots.

So far I've used the same batch from when I started to see if it works. It shows no sign of wearing out, so I'll continue to use it.

The stained LC brass has cleaned up beautifully after a 2 hr. trip through the tumbler with flitz polish.
 
Tumblers usually take out the waterspots pretty quickly anywho :)

I think thats more for folks who care not to tumble...that being the case, you could also add in a drop of jet-dri and be just as good to go.
 
I hope you guys know that you're really pushimg me to go to Harbor Freight and spend some money. And when the wife starts on me about it, I'm gonna blame y'all.
Unless you can tell me if it'll take 100 years of paint off of brass door and window hardware.
 
With brake fluid, your hardware would look good as new :)

However, as brake fluid is FLAMMABLE, I cant recommend using it in an electrical device.

It WILL however, when poured in a container sufficient to encompass your material, strip any paint off of any surface- given enough time ( bout a week at the most ).

Stripping paint of various types from small and fragile metal objects is something I do with alarming frequency.......
 
blarby,

Thank you for that. I can't believe I didn't think of that, especially coming from a mechanical background and knowing all to well what it did to thr fender of my 65 Pony car.

So with that answered... I'm just going to blame y'all for me buying a new toy.
 
You can blame me specifically, if you'd like.

Tell her how much time its going to save you....you know, so you can watch chick flicks together :)

Or, just pull a "I bought an ultrasonic cleaner, please pass the potatoes"

I'd go with option #1.

Let me know how the brake fluid thing works for you :)
 
Large HF ultrasonic

I tried one and it wouldn't hardly clean any brass, rifle or pistol.
Luck of the draw. I think it is the same unit as the smaller one, with a bigger tank. I'll continue to use the lemishine from the grocery store.
 
Ultrasonic

I did ~200 .40 cases this morning - 1 tbls lemishine, 1 tbls liquid detergent. Placed in a plastic can with water on top of running air compressor. Even primer pockets came out real clean. same process without 'vibrator' left primer pockets dirty. I thought using a 'harley' as a vibrator was a joke - until now.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top