Unable to get my FFL

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Chuck Perry

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About a month ago I started kicking around the idea of getting an FFL for a side business. I obtained the necessary forms from the ATF and started researching IRS business info, business liability insurance and so forth. All was going well until I checked with my municipal office on zoning regulations. While it is not illegal to have a home business, the zoning laws were specifically amended to prevent a home firearms business. Also included in the amendment were barber shops, tea rooms and massage parlors. To go further, I couldn't establish a retail shop in all of our commercial zones. The shop would have to be in an area zoned Commercial/Industrial, not just Commercial. Really disappointing.
 
It wasn't too long ago that everybody and his brother had a valid FFL here. But no more, I think it was Clinton that made it way too painful for most.

Dave
 
You could get a lease in the cheapest Commercial/Industrial office space you can find. A small 500 sq/ft. lease in one of those sheetmetal style light industrial/office rows could be pretty affordable. The overhead would dictate that you do more business to cover expenses of course, but even if it's not a "showroom", you could fill it with sufficient gunsafes/security to operate on a "by appointment basis", and act as an FFL who focuses on transfers, and custom "gunfinding" etc. for his clients. Business hours/availible appointments could be 5-9 pm and weekends only. You'd figgure that people with jobs to afford guns are busy and couldn't come into your store outside that time anyway.

If you incorporate, and you can't make a go of it, the corporation is liable for the expenses, not your own finance/home/assets so if you can secure capital in the name of the business, failure shouldn't affect your personal life too much other than the time and effort invested. And then you know you at least tried in persuing your "FFL dream".

Advertise yourself aggressively with business cards at gunshows to passers by, on the internet on various gun-boards buy/sell forums, and while attending pro-gun functions, or hanging out at the range. An aggressive no "transfer focused" FFL who catered to the new breed of internet/auction/Shotgun News savvy buyer could find a niche.

I think it might be a way that I'd try to start out, were I looking to become an 01 FFL. If I made a go of it enough to open a real store, I might just keep the original office open for transfer/low margin work so I didn't have to parade the "good deals" in front of the less savvy buyers. :D
 
That is exactly how they reduced the number of FFl dealers. Localities required store fronts and be located in the proper zoning area. Many Mom and Pop or garage dealers never got their license renewed. BAFTE also forwarded you FFL request to your local government who then in turn check on your zoning status. The number of dealers dropped drastically.
 
My FFL dealer deals out of his home but probably not for long. He has a small metal building out in the backyard that has a different address and he uses that as his official business address....however, the ATF just showed up at his house the other day and took all of his records off-site for review. They are trying to shut him down because he sells out of his home. They were very rude to him and his wife.
This guy does everything by the book....I cannot take a gun away unless all paperwork and approvals have been completed. He has many customers.....but it looks like the ATF wants him out of business.......
This story is still developing.......

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