The guy who runs America Most Wanted was on Larry King tonight. He was talking about some guy in Phenoix shooting three people and animals. Said he was using some Unusual Survival Gun something the police said was unusual it could shoot a shotgun shell and a .22. Now I think this is totally silly. I have a cheap don't even know what it is little gun that can shoot a 410 shoot shell and a .22. I use it when boating or hiking as it is good for snakes. It breaks down so it is good for around camp. Is that what he is calling a "Unusual Survival Gun". This guy gets on my nerves.
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beerslurpy
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I think it was called a Game Getter or similar. There was also something with a name like "Army Survival Gun ###" that had those calibers. They are AOWs.
It is a survival gun for if you dont plan on encountering anything more vicious than a rabbit. If you do encounter anything worse than that, your club-swinging skills better be up to par.
It is a survival gun for if you dont plan on encountering anything more vicious than a rabbit. If you do encounter anything worse than that, your club-swinging skills better be up to par.
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John G
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It's got to be the M6 and if so, it's hardly unusual. 
It's an over/under with the .22 barrel over the .410 barrel. The stock opens to store ammo for both. I've got one I never use, picked it up a few years back for something to stuff into a backpack.
It's an over/under with the .22 barrel over the .410 barrel. The stock opens to store ammo for both. I've got one I never use, picked it up a few years back for something to stuff into a backpack.
Ivy Mike
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IIRC, the latest CDNN catalog has a few similar guns.
Smallbore rifle caliber over a shotgun barrel.
Sounds like a great weapon if you're out in the sticks somewhere.
Guess I haven't looked at the baby killer potential yet.
Smallbore rifle caliber over a shotgun barrel.
Sounds like a great weapon if you're out in the sticks somewhere.
Guess I haven't looked at the baby killer potential yet.
joab
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Walsh also said thet it was designed for the AirForce as a survival gun
The M6 is the first thing that came to my mind.
I would consider it to be unusual as I know of no one first hands that owns one and most average Americans have never seen or heard of one.
Mr Walsh isn't talking to us in his sound bytes, he's taliking to middle America
The M6 is the first thing that came to my mind.
I would consider it to be unusual as I know of no one first hands that owns one and most average Americans have never seen or heard of one.
Mr Walsh isn't talking to us in his sound bytes, he's taliking to middle America
El Tejon
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Yes, the Camper 24C. I have one in the back of the safe.
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Just_a_dude_with_a_gun
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I've got a 50's Savage 22/410. Shoots super straight, and has a beatuful stock.
The one I have looks alot like the one pictured above. I guess I just maybe took the guy the wrong way but knowing he is anti-gun although he sugar coats it I felt he was making a snide remark ie. Survivalist gun. I think these are good gun for kids. They have both the .22 and 410 shot gun all in one. Plus they are cheap,take alot of rough treatment etc. I just don't find them unusual. Plus all the long guns that have different barrels. I bought all my nieces and nephews a firearm with interchangable .22 and .410 barrels.
Hemicuda
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therewas an old gun made by the Marbles Co, Gladstone, MI whicg is called the "GameGetter, it was a .410 smoothbore handgun...
Garcia-Bronco made a takedown stackbarrel .410/.22...
then there are copies of the G-B, the M6 Scout, and others... mostly touted as survival guns...
I have a G-B, and an M6... hardly AOW's... the GameGetter, however, IS an AOW...
Garcia-Bronco made a takedown stackbarrel .410/.22...
then there are copies of the G-B, the M6 Scout, and others... mostly touted as survival guns...
I have a G-B, and an M6... hardly AOW's... the GameGetter, however, IS an AOW...
yes, there are a lot of under/over configs that tie .22 with 410, some even up that to .223 and 20 guage. Basically it is a sideways drilling gun, which I hear are very common in germany, usually one side taking a shotshell, the other side taking a true rifle cartridge (8mm mauser type) and an insert for the shotshell side that is a 12 inch barreled .22 that can be slid in when needed.
the thing about the M6 is that it is a true survival rifle, not simply an over/under with different calibers. The M6 is folding, stores ammo in the buttstock. Further, the trigger is huge, to allow it being used with mittens on or with extreme frostbite, same with the hammer.
the thing about the M6 is that it is a true survival rifle, not simply an over/under with different calibers. The M6 is folding, stores ammo in the buttstock. Further, the trigger is huge, to allow it being used with mittens on or with extreme frostbite, same with the hammer.
Carl N. Brown
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Unusual as a 4 wheel drive I guess
Sounds like the perp is using whatever he had at hand,
not selecting a .22/.410 combo for any special reason.
.22 over .410 Savage 24 was every boys dream when I was a kid.
Came close to buying a Rossi .22/.410 but already had a .22 bronco.
The guys who make those weird derringers with laminated frames
also make a .22/.410 combo gun. they are not common but I
do not consider combo guns to be that unusual. Sports utility
in my book.
USAF M6 had a 14" .22 hornet over .410 barrel and is an AOW.
Civilian legal Springfield Armory M6 had 18* barrels.
Some outfit in Atlanta made AOW replicas of the USAF pricy 350.00
plus AOW tax and paperwork.
Darn, Readyontheright, I thought wrapping the bare M6 barrel in
parachute cord was my idea.
Sounds like the perp is using whatever he had at hand,
not selecting a .22/.410 combo for any special reason.
.22 over .410 Savage 24 was every boys dream when I was a kid.
Came close to buying a Rossi .22/.410 but already had a .22 bronco.
The guys who make those weird derringers with laminated frames
also make a .22/.410 combo gun. they are not common but I
do not consider combo guns to be that unusual. Sports utility
in my book.
USAF M6 had a 14" .22 hornet over .410 barrel and is an AOW.
Civilian legal Springfield Armory M6 had 18* barrels.
Some outfit in Atlanta made AOW replicas of the USAF pricy 350.00
plus AOW tax and paperwork.
Darn, Readyontheright, I thought wrapping the bare M6 barrel in
parachute cord was my idea.
They had a guy on AMW talking about the same thing and demonstrating such. It was a Springfield M-6. He wasn't speaking of it in a flattery manner. He almost made it seem shocking that a gun designed for the ,mil was legally available to civies. I believe at least some of the Springfields were made by CZ. Springfield was thinking, or possibly came out with some sort of pistol version as well. I don't remember what happened with that.
The guy said it was "unusual" not unheard of. What percentage of shootings in this country have been commited with a Springfield M6? Less than 1%? How about less than 0.1%, that seems to fit the definition of unusal. Its a weapon with a configuration that is not common, that is the very definition of unusual.
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