UPDATE:Gonna make some Emmerts lube. Question about measures

[jgh4445]

I'm gonna make some Emmerts Lube. The following should yield a pound of lube:

3500 gr Beeswax
2736 gr of Crisco
328 gr of olive, Wesson, or canola oil
328 gr of Anhydrous Lanolyn

Question is,
The beeswax and the Crisco are in solid state. The other ingredients are liquid. Can I weigh out the solids and liquids the same?

Found this info. Interesting.
Melted beeswax or liquid measure= Solid wax or Dry Weight
1 Tablespoon melted beeswax or liquid measure=1/2 ounce solid wax or dry weight
2 Tablespoons or 1 ounce= 1 ounce
1/4 cup or 4 tablespoons = 2 ounces
1/2 cup or 8 tablespoons= 4 ounces or 1/4 pound
1 cup or 16 tablespoons = 8 ounces or 1/2 pound
2 cups or 16 ounces= 1 pound or 16 ounces

The liquid displacement formula

Solid beeswax can be measured by displacing liquid. For example, to measure 1 Tablespoon beeswax use the following method.

Since 4 tablespoons of liquid equal 1/4 cup, add 3 tablespoons of water to a clear measuring cup. Add lumps of solid wax until the water reaches the 1/4 cup line. Pour off the water. The remaining wax equals 1 tablespoon. Set the wax aside to dry before using it in any formula.

 

[BCRider]

Weight is weight. It doesn't matter if it's liquid or not. If the recipe calls for that many grains of each material then just weigh it all out. Then stick it all into a double boiler and let it chooch until melted then stir.

That stuff in your second part refers to fluid ounces. But that's a unit of volume and not of weight. And if you run a search on the definition of the "fluid ounce definition" you'll quickly find out that it's a dog's breakfast that you don't want to get into. For example until I ran that same search and read about it I had not realized that the US fluid oz and the Imperial fluid ounce are not the same volume. They are actually 1.2ml different. Or around 3%. A small amount.... unless you're a chemist.

Here in the black powder forum we manage to waffle back and forth using "grains" as both volume and weight. But don't get confused and start thinking that a grain IS a volume. It ain't. We measure our powder as "grains" but really it's "volume equivalent of weight". So that recipe should have the items weighed and not worry about being solid or liquid.

 

[Prairie Dawg]

I make it in a double boiler bowl on top of a scale:
8 ounces beeswax
6.3 ounces crisco
0.8 ounces each, oil & lanolin

just spoon/pour it in, watching the scale as you go.
Then put the bowl over the double boiler and cook it until combined
Don't overthink it
--Dawg

 

[midland man]

I have no beekeepers around here so where can I order some at a reasonable price??

 

[jgh4445]

Thanks for the replies. OK Dawg and BC, What happens if I substitute mutton tallow for the Crisco? I notice there needs to be 10% of some type of oil. What is the function of the oil, especially when Crisco or tallow melted is already oil? Also what would the result likely be with all 10% lanolin or jojoba oil instead of 5% and 5%?
Now, I live in South Alabama. I usually shoot in high humidity and relatively high temps for what you'd think a winter temp would be. Would that make a difference in ingredients? I have been lubing with Gatefeo's Best Lube and I'm not having any particular problems, but what fun would this sport be without experimentation? Always looking to do better doncha know. OH, BTW. I'm lubing 45 LC and 45-70 BP loads.

 

[Prairie Dawg]

Oil softens the lube and makes for a lower melting point.
If you lived in Arizona, you would want less oil
If you lived in a cold place or were shooting in Winter, you would want more oil.
Personally, I use Gatofeo's lube formula.
I agree with experimentation.
I think you will have to play with the oil to find a recipe that works in your area.

Midland Man -- Try Ebay or Amazon

--Dawg

 

[midland man]

thanks I need to make some lube asap!

 

[FireInCairo]

I just bought a quart of transmission fluid a couple years ago and haven't looked back.

 

[jgh4445]

Fixed that noisy transmission did it?

 

[Timtoolman]

I made some last week using beeswax, crisco, lanolin and canola oil with a green crayon for color. Haven't shoot any bullets with it yet.

 

[whughett]

I have no beekeepers around here so where can I order some at a reasonable price??

Hobby Lobby has it white or yellow in one pound blocks or 8oz bags of pearled.

I do a lot of on line ordering so have an Amazon prime membership. One can find beeswax at Amazon for a range of different prices. None of it cheap in my estimation but as someone pointed out, compared to the cost of shot and powder, not a lot in the over all scheme of things.

Now pre cut lubed wads, that's just plain highway robbery.