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Let's suppose that I have a rifle that is from one of the manufacturers that many look down on (Oly Arms). It has been 100% reliable and I have put several hundred rounds through it with no problems. What would be the THREE upgrades that you would do to it to make it more acceptable?
 
Quad Rails (and foregrip), Nice pistol grip (Ergo/Moe/Battlegrip), and AIMPOINT or EoTech.

Those would be my 3(.5) upgrades
 
I'd just keep my hand over the left side of the mag well where the Logo is when others are around.

And BEE Happy it is 100% reliable.

Whatever beef we may have with Olympic, it's too late now.
They already made the money off selling that one there.

rc
 
If it has a collapsible stock, stake the buffer tube castle nut yourself if the factory didn't do this.

Make sure the carrier key screws are properly staked, and have a competent armorer / gunsmith do this if they aren't.

Have a gunsmith make sure the chamber is 5.56 NATO spec, and finish ream to such spec if not.

Maybe spend $70 on an HPT / MPI bolt assembly from BCM or PSA if you want some relatively cheap insurance. If you do order it before you have the gunsmith check the chamber, take the bolt with you, and have the smith check the headspace with that bolt. Keep the original bolt assembly as a spare.
 
Combine suggestions from rcmodel and ugaarguy...then just ride the bolt (very slowly) both ways when charging so people can see the logo that's on the bolt. :)
 
several hundred rounds

I'd put several hundred more rounds... at least 1500, just for feelgoodness.

Then buy some magazines, then a sling.
 
If mine was any example to go by, check the small pieces*/fasteners/hardware. Either I got the worst parts draw in history, or they majorly cheaped out on little things in the past. Can't comment on recent production.

*Bolt release, charging handle, and a set screw on mine... oh, and then the bolt cracked...
 
THREE upgrades that you would do to it to make it more acceptable?
1. Spare bolt.
2. Confirm staking. (may well need fixed on that)
3. Stop worrying about what's "acceptable" and prove what works to yourself.
 
I would run another 400 rounds through it and see if there's anything wrong with it before you go changing things out on it. One of my AR's (I have 6 complete and another 3 partial builds) is an OLD Oly I bought used and it runs pretty darn good. You may very well have gotten one that works.

However, if the rollmark really bothers you, you can always buy a stripped lower from a reputable company, transfer all the parts to it and then tell everyone its a complete rifle from whichever company you bought the lower from.
LOL!!!
 
UGAARGUY is right about making sure the chamber is in spec. otherwise, i'd just carry a spare bolt. i carry a spare BCG anyway, because anything can break but that's the most likely thing. (i mean, the bolt assembly parts, incl gas rings, extractor, etc)

preventative maintenance will go a long way though:

make sure the castle nut on your receiver extension not loose.
make sure your gas block doesn't move when it gets warm.
make sure the carrier key screws are staked.
make sure the trigger spring is properly installed so that the pins can't slide out.

regularly checking these items every time you clean the gun would be prudent.
 
i don't know for sure, but i was under the impression that the receiver end plates that get staked into the castle nut are actually made from different types of material. specifically, the companies who stake their castle nuts use one type and the ones who loctite use another, where the latter type of metal is cheaper but doesn't stake easily. thus, i'm not actually sure how much luck you'll have staking a oly end plate. i could be wrong though, so if you try it let us know how it works out
 
I think the first upgrade your gun needs is owner's self-esteem.

Who cares what some range-schlub thinks about your rifle?

Shoot it well, and ignore the fanboys.

If something on the rifle needs attention, you will know about it before anybody else.
No advice here to "Go buy this-or-that" is going to help anything.
 
I'm not an AR guy (not an AK guy either), but if the rifle is functioning fine for you, don't change anything. Most times it's when people try to make "improvements" (I've done it myself) is when stuff gets broke. I know of a guy who has a AR in .223 Magnum and didn't like the way the gas block looked, so he "adjusted" it to suit his liking. The rifle locked up on the first shot and the man was lucky it wasn't destroyed.

My advice is after each firing strip it and clean it and, while doing so, look for problem indicators such as loose parts, excessive wear, etc. Repair or replace the problem parts as necessary. Or have a competent gunsmith look it over and offer suggestions. Just make sure the smith is competent and doesn't have a grudge against Olympic Arms. Did I say make sure he's competent? I have another story about a gunsmith repairing the muzzle crown on my Enfield with some sort of grinding tool.....
 
Basically what ugaarguy said. Except the chamber dimension is important only if you intend to use 5.56 NATO pressure ammo (M193 or M855), in which case it is very important. And I would get a spare bolt from DD, BCM, LMT, or Colt, and not PSA, for reasons I won't detail here (I have had multiple problems with PSA bolts).
 
did i paraphrase these correctly?

I think the first upgrade your gun needs is owner's self-esteem.

asking for advice on a topic in which you are not an expert means you think poorly of yourself

Who cares what some range-schlub thinks about your rifle?

Shoot it well, and ignore the fanboys.

Don't ask people with experience how to deal with problems before they occur, because

If something on the rifle needs attention, you will know about it before anybody else.
you should wait until something breaks and then ask.

No advice here to "Go buy this-or-that" is going to help anything.

My rifles are toys and I only shoot them slow-fire from a bench so I assume you do the same, so it doesn't matter if they "jam".
 
Let's suppose that I have a rifle that is from one of the manufacturers that many look down on (Oly Arms). It has been 100% reliable and I have put several hundred rounds through it with no problems. What would be the THREE upgrades that you would do to it to make it more acceptable?
Make it more acceptable to who? You or them? Sounds like you have a dandy rifle for not much money. Good for you. You should be proud and laugh (inside) at the AR snobs who paid more than you did, yet didn't get more rifle than you did. If I were to do anything, I'd practice, practice, practice so not only would I have a less expensive rifle, I'd outshoot everybody with it!

I personally take great satisfaction in performing a particular task with a tool that most deem "not good enough".

My rifles are toys and I only shoot them slow-fire from a bench so I assume you do the same, so it doesn't matter if they "jam".

WOW....does anyone moderate the moderators?

35W
 
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WOW....does anyone moderate the moderators?

A more careful reading of that post should reveal that this is a variety of irony.

Irony is sometimes used as a tool to emphasize . . . stuff that needs emphasizing.

This should not be confused with "snark," which has somewhat different applications.

:)

 
Who cares what some range-schlub thinks about your rifle?

Shoot it well, and ignore the fanboys.
Most of the schlubs I encounter are flat range bench shooters. The Fanboys like me run our rifles a little a little harder. We shot on the move in either recreational or sanctioned settings. I suck at it compared to my peers, but I still have fun. :D

If something on the rifle needs attention, you will know about it before anybody else.
No advice here to "Go buy this-or-that" is going to help anything.
Okay, one person said to buy a new barrel. Several others, myself included, recommended that the OP obtain a spare bolt assembly (bolt assembly, not complete bolt carrier group), because it's the area where a part - be it a bolt lug, gas ring, extractor, extractor spring, ejector, or ejector spring - is most likely to fail on an AR as the round counts increase, even on the high end ones. Which is why most of us fanboys keep a spare bolt assembly on hand. At a whopping $70 it was the most expensive of the commonly suggested upgrades.

The other consensus suggestions were to:

1. Have the chamber checked to make it's in spec (some brands are known for tight chambers, many of us have seen it, and it has nothing to do with fanboism). That will cost just a few dollars. If it's not in spec, a few more dollars for a while you wait quick run of the finish ream will correct this.

2. Check the buffer tube castle nut to make sure it's tight & staked on. You can do this yourself with a stock wrench, hammer, center punch, and a vice with the jaws padded. I know we don't all keep a tele-stock wrench on hand, but you get them for under $10 online - it's a good investment for any AR owner. Most of us have a hammer. Many of us have a vice & set of punches. If you don't have the vice & punches they're inexpensive & readily available at the local hardware store.

3. Check the carrier key screws to make sure they're tight & properly staked. You tighten them with an SAE Allen or Hex wrench. While the superb MOACKS tool from Michiguns is the best way to stake the carrier key screws, it can be carefully done with a center punch while the carrier is clamped in a vice. Again, many of us have a set of Allen wrenches in our tool boxes. If you don't they're not expensive, and you should get a set while at you're at the hardware store picking up the vice & punches.

None of those three things cost much money. Numbers 2 and 3 will cost little to nothing depending on what tools one already owns. Numbers 2 and 3 are things I check as a part of my normal cleaning & maintenance.

So, the fanboy range schlubs (as you call us) suggested preventive maintenance which may require $50 at most for someone who owns no tools. All but the $8 stock wrench are universally useful for maintenance of other firearms, and even minor household upkeep tasks. We also hypocritically suggested a spare bolt assembly (the one assembly which contains almost all of parts most likely to fail) that most of us keep on hand even for our high end rifles.

How dare us fanboys recommend preventive maintenance and critical spare parts. Would you go on a car forum and tell people to just drive their cars until something breaks, and then get it fixed? If someone there recommended checking lug nuts for tightness, changing the oil regularly, and keeping a properly inflated spare tire would you call that person a fanboy schlub who's just trying to get you waste money at the service station or car parts store?
 
Leather
If the round count on your rifle is only “several hundred” I don’t think I would do anything yet.
I don’t think I would put any money into it until I was sure it was going to run and I trusted it.
After that, go to post number two. The sky is the limit.
Good shooting
Steve
 
The only upgrade I'd make is more ammo and more range time (or training, like a carbine class).

Don't worry about what others think of your rifle -- it's not a personal accessory like jewelry that you own to impress people who see you with it. It is a tool, and the better you learn to use that tool (and put it to use), the better you and it will be when it counts.
 
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