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Upgrade cylinder rod

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by BowerR64, Aug 18, 2013.

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  1. Rojelio

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    Bushing

    rcflint, is that a flange on the bushing to direct gas flow, or, did you somehow leave a ring in the frame for the bushing to slide into? It's hard to tell from the picture.

    I think this is great! Thanks
     
  2. BowerR64

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    Whats great? there isnt an easy solution is there?
     
  3. Rojelio

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    There is for me. I Have a lathe and milling machine and know how to use them.
     
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    gas ring groove

    I cut a groove similar to the Colt SAA to deflect some cyl gap flash. The part I made is .375 behind, pressed 3/8 inch into the cylinder which was back bored .374 for a press fit.

    The length of the forward portion is about the same as a Ruger OA, sometimes flush with the scallop above at the barrel, depending on the scallop depth, which depends on the make and the year made, they vary. It is about 3/16 inch.

    The forward end is reduced in diameter to clear the barrel threads, which may also need to be flatted a bit for clearance, again depending on make and year.

    The gun shown is a Pietta stainless. Also visible is my cylinder pin latch replacing the loading lever if a conversion cylinder is fitted.
     
  5. Rojelio

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    Thank you rcflint, that was very helpful.
     
  6. BowerR64

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    Ahhh man
     
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    I have seen this done before by turning the cylinder down make it part of the cylinder itself, the barrel hade to be screwed in to meet the new shorter length of the cylinder face. This is a much better way of doing it because you dont lose chamber capacity and is no need to alter the barrel.
     
  8. BowerR64

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    What if i polish the rod, the guy on the youtube video mentioned he polished the rod on his. Maybe that will help keep the fouling down a little.

    The video had the editor of guns of the old west magazine or something like that. He may be a member on here im not sure. duelist1954 He said his name was Mike Beliveau
     
  9. Driftwood Johnson

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    Huh? I have never heard of that being done. You would cut down on your cartridge OAL. Besides, if somebody is good enough to cut down the length of the cylinder, he is good enough to make a bushing and set it in without needing to turn the barrel in further.

    Yeah, you can polish the rod. It will help some. But if you look closely at the photo of my cylinder pin you will see there are tooling marks left on it from when it was made. If you polish it down so much that the tooling marks disappear, it will not fit properly anymore, it will be too loose.

    The bottom line I have found with the 1858 Remington, not having the skill to make my own bushing, is to just accept the fact that they need to be wiped down more often. I usually shoot my Remmies with 45 Colt conversion cylinders these days. Loaded with Black Powder of course. In order to reload I have to remove the cylinders, which is a snap with a Remmie. When I pull the cylinder out, I wipe down the face with a damp rag, then reload and put the cylinder back in. Works just fine, I can shoot them for an eight stage match that way with no binding or problems. Of course, I am using Big Lube bullets that have a ton of SPG in the lube grooves.
     
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  10. Dframe

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    I always keep a small box of baby butt wipes in my kit. Every so often I wipe down the cylinder and base pin. Then rub on a little bore butter and go right back to shooting. Takes maybe 30 seconds. You CAN overthink this whole deal.
     
  11. damoc

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    I dont think you need to do any mods to the cyl rod just plenty of bullet lube over the balls and a little bit in the cyl pin hole with every loading.
     
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