US Marshal killed in shootout with police...

[Autolycus]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/15/marshal.shot.ap/index.html

==========================================================

U.S. marshal dies in shootout with police

Monday, May 15, 2006; Posted: 5:44 a.m. EDT (09:44 GMT)

MEMPHIS, Tennessee (AP) -- A deputy U.S. marshal was killed in a shootout with police officers who had stopped the agent for driving erratically early Sunday, authorities said.

Mary Fisher, 46, refused to stop when officers tried to pull her over and led the officers to her home around 6 a.m., according to Sgt. Vince Higgins, a police spokesman.

When the officers told her to get out of the car, she opened her door, pulled out a gun and started shooting at them, Higgins said.

Officer Patrick Taylor, 34, was shot in the leg. He was taken to a hospital, where he remains in stable condition.

The other officer, whose name has not been released, was unharmed.

Both officers have been relieved of duty while the investigation continues.

Fisher was pronounced dead at the scene. Police said they could not say how many times she was shot.

Fisher had been in Memphis for several years and began her career as a deputy marshal in the early 1990s, according to the U.S. Marshals Service.

"Nobody saw this coming. No, there's no prior history that I'm aware of that would have brought this on," said David Jolley, a U.S. Marshals spokesman.

Sheriff's deputies went to Fisher's home just before 10 p.m. Saturday after a woman there dialed 911 and hung up.

Fisher was gone by the time they arrived, but a work associate at the house told deputies Fisher was delusional and had driven away, according to a joint statement from the sheriff's office and police.

Her car was spotted a few hours later driving recklessly near a crash scene police were investigating, authorities said.

The officers called for assistance, and Taylor and the other officer responded.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
==========================================================

Interesting isnt it?

 

[ebd10]

So she started shooting at officers when she was pulled over? Apparently her delusions caused her to believe she was bullet proof, I'd call this natural selection. Of course, with the propensity for law enforcement to expend large amounts of ammunition during a shoot out, one can only speculate how many hundreds of rounds were fired. Hope the cop with the leg wound heals soon.

 

[mbs357]

Crazy.

 

[WT]

"Woman with PMS and a gun" call. Very dangerous.

 

[Otherguy Overby]

Lies

Someone isn't telling the whole truth and it ain't the woman marshall cuz she's dead. There's something really wrong with the account of how this happened.

 

[CAS700850]

It looks like an unfortunate situation in which the Marshall was mentally ill, or suffering from sever depression which carried over into suicide by cop. Don't see the conspiracy here, rather a tragedy for all involved.

 

[Jim March]

Diabetes-related problem?

 

[steveracer]

This is not a good picture of what happened.

None of us know what was going on. US Marshalls aren't selected willie-nillie, and are well trained. Go to their training site off the coast of GA and you'll see what I mean. Something bad happened before this woman was shot. We can't know what it was until we know the whole story. My best wishes go out to the police on the scene, because the injuries they got on the scene can't possible compare to the psycho-trauma of the impending investigation. This is sad all the way around.

 

[Biker]

I know that this sounds "out there", but considering her paranoid behavior, well, it sounds like she had been on a 4 day meth-runner. There's more here than meets the eye. A sad day for all involved.
Biker

 

[tinner man]

Biker may be right

Depression and Meth=suicide by cop. Sad

 

[Just_a_dude_with_a_gun]

[foil hat on]
Could be that these officers are full of ****. omg, a cop that is not on the leve, or just lies to get out of a mistake he or she made?? oh, my!

Cops of all types have a propensity to speed, knowing that 'they're above the law'. Yes, it is a fact that many do it, and think that way, so don't even start.

The officers who detained her for her driving may have seen her gun upon approaching the car, and drew their own. The marshall, not realizing the officers mistakenly thought this a deadly situation involving an armed perp
probably fired when she tried to get out to produce her ID.

Leg wound sounds appropriate in this situation...

[/foil hat off]

 

[tinner man]

Lets see

Hit and Run TA, driving erratically, producing a gun, Not ID.
Yep, lets blame the Police who shot her. LOL

 

[BigO01]

It would be interesting to know if the patrol car had a camera in it and if it caught the whole thing on tape .

If the story is true it could be anything mentioned above and even a few other things such as a reaction to some medication/mixture of meds she was given to even a high fever from an illness .

She could have been given medication that she was alergic to and it caused this , Doctors do screw up on things like this I've seen it personally .

"but a work associate at the house told deputies Fisher was delusional and had driven away,"


I doubt that the marshals/coworkers would assist the LEO's in a coverup , if they thought she was shot because of the cops screwed up they would be screaming bloody murder .

 

[Correia]

Y'all can guess what happened until the cows come home, but face it. All you are going on is a news article with about zilch in the way of information.

Just_a_dude_with_a_gun, give it a rest.

 

[Leif]

Very sad and very odd, whichever way it happened.

 

[ScottsGT]

Sounds like a case for the X-files.......

 

[Standing Wolf]

Only the police and military are qualified to have guns.

 

[Freddymac]

Standing Wolf...

You took the words right out of my mouth... er... off my key board. With law inforcement like that, who needs criminals?

 

[c_yeager]

No amount of training and selection can keep a person from losing their mind. Mental illness can hit anyone at any time and that doesnt even account for the possibility of drug use, which also effects people of all walks of life.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

ebd10 said,

So she started shooting at officers when she was pulled over? Apparently her delusions caused her to believe she was bullet proof, I'd call this natural selection.

Really? What about this was natural selection? Natural selection isn't about living and not living. It is about whether or not you were able to pass on your genes before you died and if so, if you did and produce a viable offspring. Was she killed before she had a chance to pass on her genes? If so, her genes are now elsewhere and her death moot for the purpose of natural selection (no offense meant to her family). If she was not able to reproduce, then it is moot. At 46, she wasn't a likely candidate for the first time mother's club. Yes, it could happen, but it isn't nearly as likely than if she had been 21.

From the story, we don't know if the problem was natural selection or unnatural.

 

[LAK]

A gut feeling echoes that of Otherguy Overby.

Sounds like there is alot missing to this story. Perhaps she had just too many bullet holes in her to convince even a seven year old that it was a "suicide".

Wonder what's going on in Tennessee.

----------------------------------------------

http://ussliberty.org
http://ssunitedstates.org

 

[Erebus]

Well I seriously doubt the cops shot her by accident or for the heck of it and then shot one of themselves in the leg with her gun to cover it up. I have seen dash-cam video of just such an incident occuring. It was a woman that was having personal/marriage problems and she went out and intentionally caused the police to try and pull her over. And when they did she ran home, jumped out of her explorer and pulled a black cellphone out. She held it like a handgun and pointed it at one of the LEOs. Lucky for her the other LEO that was riding shotgun had a good viewing angle and knew immediately it was a phone. The one it was pointed at was drawing to fire. She admitted that she was trying to get the LEOs to kill her right on her front lawn where her husband would see it to get even for some unmentioned offence he commited against her. Had she had a gun would she have fired? I have also seen dash-cam video of a guy pulled over get out of his pickup(IIRC) retreive an empty/unloaded shotgun out of his vehicle and aim it at an officer. He wasn't as lucky as the woman with the cellphone. There was no mention of any drug use in either of these cases and neither had a criminal record at all. The cellphone lady was upset with her husband and the shotgun guy was apparently just depressed. I saw these 2 videos on a documentary about the inceasingly more and more common phenominon of "Suicide by Cop". there were many more cases talked about that they didn't have video for.

I think the only significant detail we are missing in the case of the marshal is the cause of her behavior. Beyond the "Why'd she do it?" the reported chain of events, while lacking detail, have nothing that doesn't make sense.

 

[Spot77]

Diabetes-related problem?

Only EXTREME cases of out of control diabetes would make one this delusional.

I've had juvenile diabetes for 27 years and only once did I ever experience anything that made me need help. And that was only after a long period (months) of drinking alcohol, poor diet and general lack of health care after high school. Surely a pattern like that would have been noticed by coworkers for somebody employed as a U.S. Marshal. In fact, Baltimore City Police wouldn't hire me simply because I was a diabetic, regardless of how healthy I was....I outscored 94 out of 100 people on a physical agility and endurance test.

Interesting isnt it?

To say the least.

Anne Arundel County Police (Maryland) have shot at least five people already this year. And an Annapolis City officer (Also in Anne Arundel County) shot and killed a man who was about to shoot a State Trooper. What the heck is going on around here? Why are so many people being confrontational? Are people fed up about something? Is there a surge in meth, crack or other nastiness?

 

[sterling180]

No amount of training and selection can keep a person from losing their mind. Mental illness can hit anyone at any time and that doesnt even account for the possibility of drug use, which also effects people of all walks of life.

Which is why the antis in the UK,Australia,Canada and even in the USA,use this type of reasoning to remove the much-cherished firearms from their owners.I wouldn't be suprised if the American anti-gunners use this as propaganda, on their websites.Their message is,"you are not fit enough to have a gun".

There was an incident in Northan Ireland in 1992, when RUC Police Constable James Moore, fired shots over his partners grave,using his service revolver.He was suspended from duty and had his revolver confiscated.The next thing he did,was he went to the Sinn Fein offices with a shotgun and posed as a journalist.When his name was being checked,he pulled out his hidden shotgun and open fire,killing several people and injuring others.He went back to his BMW and drove off, to a remote area and committed suicide with his shotgun.

 

[c_yeager]

Which is why the antis in the UK,Australia,Canada and even in the USA,use this type of reasoning to remove the much-cherished firearms from their owners.I wouldn't be suprised if the American anti-gunners use this as propaganda, on their websites.Their message is,"you are not fit enough to have a gun".

And yet I consider the ever present spectre of the criminally insane to be a fairly compelling argument in favor of a wider distribution of civilian owned firearms.